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Originally Posted by Mordor (Post 1778318)

I do. I think Trump is slightly less bad than Clinton.

same

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Originally Posted by Mordor (Post 1778318)

I do. I think Trump is slightly less bad than Clinton.

Why?

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1778320)

same

Explain. I feel like I've heard your explanation before but continue.

Because she's proven herself (as Sec of State) as an untrustworthy criminal.

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Originally Posted by Mordor (Post 1778327)

Because she's proven herself (as Sec of State) as an untrustworthy criminal.

An untrustworthy criminal that hasn't been charged with a single thing.

Also you think Trump is trustworthy in comparison?

I would rather an idiot as president than one of the most corrupt candidates in recent memory. My hope with Trump winning is that the Democrats will straighten up their party and realize that people do care about policies and would rather a good candidate (I.e Bernie, even if I wasn't a fan of his policies) than the bigger name like Hillary.

I also do believe the US has some immigration issues that need to be addressed, which Trump claims he will do.

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1778340)

I would rather an idiot as president than one of the most corrupt candidates in recent memory. My hope with Trump winning is that the Democrats will straighten up their party and realize that people do care about policies and would rather a good candidate (I.e Bernie, even if I wasn't a fan of his policies) than the bigger name like Hillary.

I also do believe the US has some immigration issues that need to be addressed, which Trump claims he will do.

People don't care about policies. Trump winning proves that.

Yeah, so you basically want Bush 2.0("rather an idiot"), he's going to run the same way with one or two actually smart people knowing what they are doing but idk though because he keeps filling his entire cabinet with inexperienced people. They cabinet he has lined up is the most inexperienced cabinet in the history of presidents. They are going to wreck havoc on everything!

The immigration issues truth be told are already being addressed/handled. If you actually looked into it, you would know this. Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any other administration. Don't just go off of my opinion listen to the opinion of people that actually live in border cities.

Americans who live near border say Trump's wall is unwelcome | PBS NewsHour

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“The wall might make mid-America feel safer, but for those of us that live on the border, it’s not making us feel any safer when we know that people can go over it, around it, under it and through it,” said Monica Weisberg-Stewart, security expert for the Texas Border Coalition, a consortium of regional leaders.

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Since tower-mounted video surveillance cameras began going up in 1999 in the Brownsville area, illegal cross-border traffic in the area “dried up by 85 to 90 percent,” said Johnny Meadors, the sector’s assistant chief for technology. He said the traffic moved west, where there were no cameras.

Seventy-two more of the towers, which are 80 to 120 feet tall, are to be installed in the valley by 2021, and could include motion sensors and laser pointers, Meadors said.

Yeah, his cabinet picks have been pretty bad. We can only hope that he surprises us come 2017.

As far as the immigration policy goes, I didn't say it wasn't being fixed. It still has a long way to go though and Hillary was not going to address it. I'll never understand how Canada ends up with stricter policies than the US, especially since we're supposedly the "free" country.

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1778345)

As far as the immigration policy goes, I didn't say it wasn't being fixed. It still has a long way to go though and Hillary was not going to address it. I'll never understand how Canada ends up with stricter policies than the US, especially since we're supposedly the "free" country.

How was Hillary not going to address it when it is being addressed no matter who is in office? The border patrol wasn't going to just pick up and go away along with ICE.

She had a ridiculous refugee plan for starters.

hmm, politfacts is saying there's no truth to it so I guess not.

Regardless, the immigration issue isn't solved yet and she had no plans to further address it. On top of that, as someone who followed the election very closely, I can firmly say that she had very few actual policies. For the most part she would just jump to the opposite extreme of Trump. Trump says no abortions? Hillary says abortions at 8 months!

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1778349)

Regardless, the immigration issue isn't solved yet and she had no plans to further address it. On top of that, as someone who followed the election very closely, I can firmly say that she had very few actual policies. For the most part she would just jump to the opposite extreme of Trump. Trump says no abortions? Hillary says abortions at 8 months!

Would you people stop saying that? You and Ki are the same when it comes to that. Hillary is a policy person and she spent a large majority of the debates actually talking policy while all Trump did was launch attacks. There was like the second debate or third one when she finally decided to stoop to his level and just attack back but that is not even remotely true that she had very few actual policies.