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Frownland 06-06-2017 07:23 PM

No'mo

' = ho

Frownland 06-06-2017 07:24 PM

Political discourse in 2017.

Stephen 06-06-2017 07:38 PM

Po'dis

Chula Vista 06-06-2017 07:52 PM

Breaking News: Jeff Sessions has offered to resign.

Can you imagine? Trump already lost his National Security Advisor and now might lose his Attorney General in his first half year in office.

And multiple sources are reporting that Comey is going to deny ever telling Trump that he was not under inverstigation, let alone 3 times.

And Trump can't stop tweeting "TRAVEL BAN" even though he's being advised by everyone not to use those particular words because it gives the courts an easy out to strike it down.

OccultHawk 06-06-2017 09:06 PM

lol

My first reaction to Sessions was is he still in there. That such a major c*nt could be so deep in the back of my mind shows to me how insane this has been. It's like if Faulkner had written The Godfather.

djchameleon 06-06-2017 09:33 PM

Yeah I heard the Sessions thing earlier. I hope he seriously considers it because **** that guy.

Chula Vista 06-06-2017 09:45 PM

Word is that his and Trump's relationship has gotten really bad with lots of behind closed doors heated exchanges. Trump is still really pissed that Sessions recused himself. He wants his staff to be loyal to him first and not the official duties of the political office that they hold.

OccultHawk 06-06-2017 09:52 PM

Quote:

recused
Don't start spelling it correctly. It ruins the entire post.

Chula Vista 06-06-2017 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1843262)
Don't start spelling it correctly. It ruins the entire post.

Even at 57 I'm still evolving.

Chula Vista 06-07-2017 01:39 PM

Tomorrow is going to be ****ing crazy.

OH BOY! Obstruction of justice is looking more and more like a path to impeachment.

James Comey testimony: Trump asked me to let Flynn investigation go - CNNPolitics.com

Frownland 06-07-2017 01:42 PM

Here's how I think it went down.

Trump, thinking he was still working in real estate: Say, this investigation is pretty hard on me, do you mind dropping it?

Comey: No.

Trump: *hangs head and frowns*

*both men go their separate ways with nothing being changed*

Chula Vista 06-07-2017 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1843454)

Trump, thinking he was still working in real estate: Say, this investigation is pretty hard on me, do you mind dropping it?

He simply isn't grasping, in the least, the weight and consequences of his position.

Frownland 06-07-2017 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1843456)
He simply isn't grasping, in the least, the weight and consequences of his position.

OR! he's playing cross dimensional chess that only he understands fully.

Chula Vista 06-07-2017 02:07 PM

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...007069cdc0.jpg

Mindfulness 06-07-2017 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1843453)
Tomorrow is going to be ****ing crazy.

OH BOY! Obstruction of justice is looking more and more like a path to impeachment.

James Comey testimony: Trump asked me to let Flynn investigation go - CNNPolitics.com

:pimp:

Anteater 06-07-2017 03:29 PM

Yeah, impeachment is not happening. Having looked at what Comey has said in his opening statement, he did in fact assure Trump on at least two occasions that he wasn't under investigation. Which means Trump was telling the truth for once. It looks like the case with Flynn and the "pressure" he felt was greatly exaggerated as well.

If Comey is going to go back n' forth on what actually happened and contintually refer back to memos that nobody can verify, then any testimony he gives from this point onward is questionable at best.

The Batlord 06-07-2017 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1843485)
Yeah, impeachment is not happening. Having looked at what Comey has said in his opening statement, he did in fact assure Trump on at least two occasions that he wasn't under investigation. Which means Trump was telling the truth for once. It looks like the case with Flynn and the "pressure" he felt was greatly exaggerated as well.

If Comey is going to go back n' forth on what actually happened and contintually refer back to memos that nobody can verify, then any testimony he gives from this point onward is questionable at best.

So then why do you think Trump fired Comey?

Frownland 06-07-2017 06:24 PM

Because he was appointed by BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.

Exo 06-07-2017 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1843545)
Because he was appointed by BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.

BARACK RHYMES WITH IRAQ

HUSSEIN...WELL...THERE YOU GO

OBAMA RHYMES WITH OSAMA

That's all the testimony needed.

Frownland 06-07-2017 06:30 PM

Add one r to Barack and what do you get? Barrack. Obama is a born war monger.

Anteater 06-07-2017 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frownland (Post 1843545)
because he was appointed by barack hussein obama.

+1

The Batlord 06-07-2017 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1843553)
+1

I mean if anyone is gonna be that shallow then it's Trump, but that's some seriously lazy thinking to actually believe it. Guy investigating his boss gets fired. Nothing shady there.

Anteater 06-07-2017 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1843557)
I mean if anyone is gonna be that shallow then it's Trump, but that's some seriously lazy thinking to actually believe it. Guy investigating his boss gets fired. Nothing shady there.

Eh that line of logic doesn't work because the investigation continues on whether or not Comey is there. If Trump really wanted to kill the investigation, simply firing one person makes zero difference.

As far as what was released in the opening statements goes, there was some specific reasoning Trump insinuated based on what Comey outlined (which was along the lines of "Trump was pissed off at me because I never pursued criminal charges against Hillary in November").

Tomorrow is going to be another no-show for the Russian conspiracy theorists unless Comey can reasonably show that Trump-

A. Literally tried to sideline the Russian investigation (rather than just wishing out loud for it) and
B. Can reconcile his previous testimony ("nobody above me impeded any investigations to my knowledge") with his current testimony

The fact he was originally appointed by Obama is likely a factor in there somewhere though. Trump did say in 2016 he was gonna roll back the previous administration. Looks like he meant that in more ways than one. :laughing:

The Batlord 06-07-2017 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1843565)
Eh that line of logic doesn't work because the investigation continues on whether or not Comey is there. If Trump really wanted to kill the investigation, simply firing one person makes zero difference.

The logic is perfectly reasonable. What about Trump gives you the impression that he is a mastermind and not just an impulsive blowhard who might just be trying to send a message to the next guy in line for the job regardless of whether or not this would actually be effective? Or he just got mad and wanted to hurt the guy?

Anteater 06-07-2017 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1843571)
The logic is perfectly reasonable. What about Trump gives you the impression that he is a mastermind and not just an impulsive blowhard who might just be trying to send a message to the next guy in line for the job regardless of whether or not this would actually be effective?

Well that's the point really, and one I've iterated here a few times in the past. Trump isn't a grand mastermind, schemer, or the 4D chessmaster that his fans think he is. He's a walking, talking meme who revels in the spotlight. But the strange thing is that everyone I know (friends, work, etc.) who are liberal seem to think he's both at the same time. Sure he's surrounded by people with 2nd or 3rd degree ties to Russia or Ukraine, but they don't seem to be doing much besides picking their noses and crying while Trump pits them against each other for laughs.

And because I've known all that about him for pretty much as long as I've been alive, most of the screeching on the far-to-moderate left about him pulling off some grand coup with Russia is cringey to me and a big distraction from more serious issues.

If Russia's only goal was to reinstall a Cold War mentality in the extremist political echo chambers of our country, then they've achieved their goal with flying colors. If their goal was anything more substantial (such as lifting sanctions or bringing about measureable policy changes on our end in their favor) then they should have worked more with Podesta and "hacked" the election in Clinton's favor. She would have been far easier to predict and manipulate, since Trump has no problem turning 180 degrees on anything without consulting anyone.

grindy 06-07-2017 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1843551)
BARACK RHYMES WITH IRAQ

HUSSEIN...WELL...THERE YOU GO

OBAMA RHYMES WITH OSAMA

That's all the testimony needed.

Also Hussein rhymes with insane.

Frownland 06-07-2017 07:24 PM

I don't expect much to come from the whole Russia ordeal and I'm tired of it too. It's like Benghazi but ****ing everyone is screeching. Also quit saying that they hacked the election. That's the stupidest ****ing term for it I've ever seen. What did the Russy bitches go into the vote database where the information predetermining the election and change a few numbers? Suck my dick you sore losers.

Chula Vista 06-07-2017 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1843485)

If Comey is going to go back n' forth on what actually happened and contintually refer back to memos that nobody can verify, then any testimony he gives from this point onward is questionable at best.

Except, he shared those memos with his aids at the time they were written.

Article 1 of the Watergate Impeachment:

Subsequent thereto, Richard M. Nixon, using the powers of his high office, engaged personally and through his close subordinates and agents, in a course of conduct or plan designed to delay, impede, and obstruct the investigation of such illegal entry; to cover up, conceal and protect those responsible; and to conceal the existence and scope of other unlawful covert activities.

djchameleon 06-07-2017 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1843576)

If Russia's only goal was to reinstall a Cold War mentality in the extremist political echo chambers of our country, then they've achieved their goal with flying colors. If their goal was anything more substantial (such as lifting sanctions or bringing about measureable policy changes on our end in their favor) then they should have worked more with Podesta and "hacked" the election in Clinton's favor. She would have been far easier to predict and manipulate, since Trump has no problem turning 180 degrees on anything without consulting anyone.

In favor of Clinton? No way. You and everyone else thought Hillary was worse than Trump was so worried about her going to War with Russia. There is no way that she would have been easier to get to lift the sanctions. She wasn't buddy buddy at all with Russia and Putin didn't respect her even before her silly ass red button reset thing.

Anteater 06-07-2017 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1843591)
In favor of Clinton? No way. You and everyone else thought Hillary was worse than Trump was so worried about her going to War with Russia. There is no way that she would have been easier to get to lift the sanctions. She wasn't buddy buddy at all with Russia and Putin didn't respect her even before her silly ass red button reset thing.

Yeah but in retrospect (and thanks to our intelligence agencies) we also know that the Russians were attempting to implement different measures to push things in their favor as early as 2015 regardless of who won the election. People talk about the Russian ties between Trump's team and people close to Putin, but those ties existed between some of Hillary's people as well.

But again, as others have pointed out, Russia had no real way of knowing who would win. So they must have had other things in place in the case of a Clinton win. Leverage and all that fun stuff.

Lisnaholic 06-08-2017 05:35 AM

Obama talks with Comey : twice in four years
Trump tries leaning on Comey : nine times in four months

I don't know if Comey will have time to look at this thread before he testifies this morning, but if he does : Go Comey! :clap:

Mindfulness 06-08-2017 06:19 AM


djchameleon 06-08-2017 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1843628)

But again, as others have pointed out, Russia had no real way of knowing who would win. So they must have had other things in place in the case of a Clinton win. Leverage and all that fun stuff.

Of course they did. Why didn't anything thing get "anonymously" leaked from the RNC. I'm sure they have as much dirt as the DNC. Also Comey's convenient timing with his bogus ass investigation.

OccultHawk 06-08-2017 07:02 AM

Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps

Democracy isn't working, people.

Chula Vista 06-08-2017 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1843688)

Buyers remorse growing from day to day.

Chula Vista 06-08-2017 08:25 AM

Comey's opening statement - :yikes:

Trump's a-hole has gotta be tighter than drum right now.

Anteater 06-08-2017 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1843708)
Comey's opening statement - :yikes:

Trump's a-hole has gotta be tighter than drum right now.

Lol, this testimony is a complete farce. So many contradictions and problems with Comey's position I don't even know where to start. Like how he never took memos of previous meetings with presidents on important matters. Convenient. The list goes on and on...

Also, this is hilarious.

Biology Prof: Trump Presidency Is So Traumatic It Will Change Human Genome Forever

Anteater 06-08-2017 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1843710)
Is this you "trolling" I'm not sure when we're meant to take you seriously

I'm dead serious (and have been watching the testimony live: the inconsistencies from Comey keep piling up). People seem to have a short memory in regards to whether or not Comey has good judgement or can stick to a consistent position. Watch his exchange with Marco Rubio for example. If you want to take down Trump, even an orangutan would have more credibility at this point.

Chula Vista 06-08-2017 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1843713)
If you want to take down Trump, even an orangutan would have more credibility at this point.

You are laughable. He fully explained why he didn't take notes on Obama or Bush and why he felt he needed to do it after the Trump meetings.

Your Trump apologist lens is once again getting in the way. What else is new?

I've been watching every minute of it and he's coming off as super credible and honest. No pauses, no hesitance, and Rubio didn't really accomplish anything that made Comey look negative.

Some have rose colored glasses. You have Trump colored glasses. Laughable.

Anteater 06-08-2017 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1843717)
You are laughable. He fully explained why he didn't take notes on Obama or Bush and why he felt he needed to do it after the Trump meetings.

Your Trump apologist lens is once again getting in the way. What else is new?

I've been watching every minute of it and he's coming off as super credible and honest. No pauses, no hesitance, and Rubio didn't really accomplish anything that made Comey look negative.

Some have rose colored glasses. You have Trump colored glasses. Laughable.

"What else is new"

"Looks at typical Chula response"

"goes back to laughing with coffee in hand"

I must have missed the part of this non-event testimony where Comey pulled the smoking gun out of his *******.

Let's review what we've learned:

- Comey says initially Trump did not pressure him to drop Russian investigation, but then later contradicts this statement.

- Trump was told on three seperate occasions he was not under investigation, which both Comey and the media had previously said Trump was lying about

- Comey was in at least two important meetings with Obama in 2016 one-on-one but didn't see fit to make memos of them. Yet on his very first meeting with Trump he arbitrarily decides to start doing so.

- Leaks memo with potentially classified information to NYT through third party immediately after being fired.

- Can't explain in a logical or coherent fashion why he didn't tell anyone back in February about Trump's "pressure" to drop Flynn investigation.


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