Cool, that's one factor. Are you aware of any of the mismanagement and corruption that happened in the local government in this area? I live here and work for Atlantic County, with access to great deal of information you've probably never read or heard about..

Just more of the usual black and white, cause and effect arguments you make.
:usehead:

Dude. They are not MY arguments. I don't live there so I have to rely on dozens and dozens of TV, online, press, and other media sources. You wanna diss on anyone? Diss on the vast majority of the various information sources that have been out there for a over a decade documenting how Trump ****ed up Atlantic City.

If you have some inside info that absolves Trump, spill it.

I get sick of the number of times some of you jump on me as if I'm some kind of ****ing idiot that doesn't research both sides of an issue before posting an "OPINION" on this forum.

It's not necessarily your research we criticize, but your critical thinking.

Your fallacy for the day is The Bandwagon Fallacy.

You've got to stop playing the part first, my man. You've never given off the impression of being open to challenging your biases, so you "researching both sides" doesn't hold that much water, unfortunately.

I'm not absolving Trump. I'm simply pointing out (as I usually do whenever I come to this thread), that there are MULTIPLE REASONS behind the downfall of Atlantic City. You just like to grab shitty things Trump does and exaggerate the hell out of them to justify your position. Trump did not single handedly destroy Atlantic City. I'm not arguing anything about Trump, I'm just saying you are factually wrong.

You do realize that out of the hundreds of millions he generates a big chunk of that goes to payroll in some form or fashion right? Any business as large as his has to write off a lot every year just to remain somewhat profitable.

Stop being passive-aggressive and try to think about what actually goes into a global enterprise for 5 seconds.

Ban him, Frowny!!!

5 seconds goddamnit!

So if I don't have first hand knowledge, and have to to rely on everything that's available via dozens of various media and online sources, exactly what am I supposed to do to supplant you ****ers with my opinions?

Rather than jumping on me and what you call "my biases" how about you come up with something to counter the vast majority overview of the actual issue?

Post something that actually proves that Trump didn't **** Atlantic City over big time. That is the subject here. Not what I have to say on the subject.

Come on, provide some defense to what I've said other than "because you said it, it sucks". I dare you.

Sigh......

You're due for a chill pill.

DWV is not arguing that Trump didn't have any effect on Atlantic City, just that he was one of myriad factors and that it's short sighted to point to him as the key cause.

Also: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/bandwagon
The Bandwagon Fallacy
Logical Fallacies» Bandwagon Fallacy

You didn't really give us anything to defend against, unless there was a link to a source or two that I missed. You just kind of dropped an opinion and walked off. That's not how debates work.

What Frown said.. and if you want one of the many examples of the downfall of AC that you can read about with a simple google search, you should try looking into the Revel Casino.

I'm waiting.

I'm not saying other things weren't at play. But admit Trump helped to **** your city over big time.

Or don't.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/..._the_Goalposts

Had a baby with

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

And thus Chula's argument was born.

You are so predictable.......

I source online data, and then you use online data to refute my online data.

I'm taking a nap now.

Just because I'm predictable doesn't mean I'm a bad businessman.

Isn't the onus of proof on the one making the allegation? Prove YOU'RE not the one who ****ed over Atlantic City, Chula.

Ban him, Frowny.

The burden of proof lies on whoever has the most cameras on them.

He's too fun!

The paparazzi has to prove Trump killed Atlantic City? Da fuq?

I'd rather they prove that Ivanka has real nipples.

Did you know 200 years ago women wore wigs on the pussies?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkin

Have you seen Killer Joe? :love:

A while ago, I posted a clip of the Trump cabinet's loathesome display of toadying to Trump and likened it to cult worship. Well, here's a guy who comes to a similar conclusion, when asked ( at 3:50 in) to come up with historical parallel's to Trump's presidency:



The question was prompted by Trump's recent set-piece (invited audience only) rally in Iowa. I understand that other similar events are being planned for the future - if anyone wants the venue details, just google "trump's next five-minute hate."

Without historical precendent though, is Trump's twitter addiction. Because the usual to and fro of a press conference is too much of an intellectual challenge for Trump, twitter is often the way in which we hear about Trump's ideas. Of course there are many ideas too complex to be reduced to 140 characters, although that limit matches Trump's ability to expound pretty well. Here is an example of him telling us about uranium:-



Anyone else noticing how Trump relies so much on unsophisticated vocabulary? Everything is reduced to "bad...sick....great guy....a wonderful bill ...a big wall". His go-to comment on his international meetings is, "I think I can get along with this guy." That level of analysis is ok when frat boys are deciding who to invite to their next party, but a so-called President should really be able to do better.

A recent commentator on one of Trump's twitter messages said, "This really opens up more questions than it answers." Well yes, because politics can't be summed up in twitter messages, even if that is becoming the new norm of Trump's outreach to the media and the public. (By which I mean the general public, not just a group of acolytes, Iowa style.)

Coming soon, I suspect, will be press statements by smiley:-

I love that website Shit Trudeau Says....he's incompetent in ways that make Trump look cute in comparison.

There are numerous examples but why is it that you can only name one and you just barely name drop one. You didn't go into any details at all whatsoever Mr. Insider Info to the fall of Atlantic City.

He's saving it for a big expose in The Times.

I just took a look. Nothing I saw was even as dumb as a middling Trump comment.

Trump claims he has ****ed a black woman.

Was probably just Ivanka in blackface.

Goddamn that's hot.

Well that's just, like, your opinion bruh.

Not everyone is blessed enough to get to study poly-sci at the university level.

Every time you say something stupid (which is on par with Chula as far as frequency goes) I just remember this Time Magazine cover and lulz.

https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.c...over.jpg?w=560

I wouldn't know. I voted for Obama twice.

He's white.

lol

How does this make you feel Chula? You try to be likeable but you're universally ridiculed and widely despised.

The march was a waste of time, the pink hats were stupid, and anyone they were trying to convince of their position were not convinced because the whole thing was executed in a childish fashion, much like the man they're railing against. Similarly, nobody is convinced that gay marriage is wrong just because a bunch of ignorant Christian businessowners decide to scream on social media collectively and boycott Ben & Jerrys or whatever.

4sho

White women wearing pussy eared burkas as supposed solidarity and Muslim women holding signs that said "white women voted for trump"

lol

Trump is going to burn his hand because their pussies are on fire.