probably an unpopular opinion here but i think business' owners should be able to do this if they want. in my personal opinion i would much rather openly know that someone is homophobic or racist than giving them my hard earned money only to find out who i was supporting later down the line. anybody remember the whole cake thing?

Court Rules Bakery Illegally Discriminated Against Gay Couple - ACLU - Colorado


at the end of the day you can't force away bigoted individuals, and i feel it's better to let the civilians see what the truth of the matter is and handle it themselves instead of having the government get involved.

Depends on where it is. In some rural locations it could be the only place to get a cake for miles. Framing it as an attack on their religious freedoms is some of the most bizarre lines of thinking that I've ever heard.

lol

ya I agree that it isn't an attack, but I just don't agree with forcing a business into doing something. the kind of person who thinks being gay is against God's will is the kind of person that I would actively try not to support.

as far as the only bakery for miles, I doubt that is much of an issue during a wedding. if you're already falling into the idea that weddings need to be an extravagant affair then I doubt the extra travel or delivery fee is going to hurt you too much.

I'm not excusing business' from being abusive or offensive either, obviously there is a fine line between firmly denying service and being a ****. you're probably a dickhead regardless, but I believe it should be within your right to be a dickhead.

Ja. I can't get behind creating second class citizens because of people's ass-backwards beliefs.

If people don't want to sell cakes to gays they should be allowed just accept your business will probably suffer.

I'd rather buy gay friendly cakes myself.

I don't have faith in that assumption. If you're homophobic, you probably live in a place where that idea isn't challenged that often.

I was making a joke. Only a leftist stooge like you would call that deflection. But hey, at least you have good taste in prog. :tramp::tramp::tramp:

He'd have that wall paid for in a few days if he could put some kind of tax on money going back into Mexico via Western Union + similar services....

...wait, I'm pretty sure we talked about this before.

I don't really like the thought of joining ideologies to atheism though, not least because atheism is not itself an ideology. I also don't like joining it to something that has evolved to include so many divisive and regressive individuals as 3rd wave feminism has. I'm fine being an atheist who reps feminist ideals, but I don't want it to end up being required for me to conform to an ideology I don't necessarily agree with (3rd wave feminism) in order to call myself an atheist.

Huh?