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elphenor 02-15-2017 01:37 PM

**** yeah

that's the guy I was most pissed about

labor secretary against raising the minimum wage eat **** capitalist pig

Trollheart 02-15-2017 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1805142)
I explained my use of the word "globalist" earlier as it related to Soros.

You cited a poll that came out several years ago. Cultural differences or no cultural differences, America must not be that "great" a threat to world peace if those people professing fear would rather live here than anywhere else on the planet according to the results. Why didn't Russia or Iran or Iraq or Saudi Arabia top the list on the 2nd question otherwise?

Because when the tiger is loose the safest place to be is in its cage.
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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1805206)
Hah. The last decade or more was an experiment as well. Pushed back further than expected? Other than the stimulus bill, Obama didn't do anything in his past eight years in office that you'll find too much consensus with people on

He got Osama...
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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1805210)
He said they failed at their purpose.

And for Duga's thing about he internet, I repeat that it's not a false news problem it's a stupid people problem. Bull**** stories and rumors existed long before the internet. If anything the internet provides much easier access to the information you need to make an informed opinion. It's just a lack of critical thinking and the fact that most people don't care about what's true, just what backs up their perspective because I guess being wrong is too big of a blow to some people's egos. You can definitely see a lot of that in these kinds of topics.

Edit: You can definitely see that willful ignorance when Elphlord and Chalupa Vista make AuntEater out to be this greedy business man for attempting to be optimistic about a candidate he doesn't even particularly like. (at least I don't think he likes Trump)

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1805225)
Can you clarify then? Because that's all I'm reading from your posts as well.

When an experiment is harmful it's not an experiment anymore?

Me too. Even after Ki's explanation, well, an experiment never stops being an experiment: it's either ongoing, failed or completed, but it still is one.
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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1805255)
Correct. I don't think he hates Muslims or other races at all. He has a hyperbolic fear of radicals getting into the U.S. though.

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1805258)
You can't be serious.

X 3
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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1805269)
"Blatant" racism? Where he said "some" illegal immigrants coming out of Mexico were rapists or drug dealers or cartel members? In the liberal news world, I guess that means that ALL Mexicans must be those things. But he never said "all" Mexicans now did he?

Again: bringing racism into the picture here assumes he is motivated by it. Did Hitler bring Jews into his inner circle? No. When you hate something, you will exclude it. Trump would never hire anyone in his organization who was a different race from himself if he really believed in what some of his opponents have claimed about him. He merely used fears that naturally align with racism in order to appeal to middle America.

I'm not trying to be mean to you here. I'm trying to demonstrate the difference between analyzing what is actually said versus analyzing an interpretation that a media outlet snipped out of a larger statement. If you are going to say Trump is motivated by racism and sexism, you need to provide evidence that those are his prime motivating factors. Looking at the whole pinata that represents Trump's actions throughout his life and including those he's made since becoming President, it doesn't look like those things are forces that drive him. His ego is so big I doubt he has room for anything else outside of his desire for wealth and attention.

Wasn't the quote something like "They're not sending us over their best: they're sending rapists, drug users, murderers ..."? So when you say something like that, it's pretty clear you're talking about, if not all, then the majority of the people you're talking about.
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Originally Posted by duga (Post 1805273)
I'm not sure I said that at all. I think you are confused as to what entails an "experiment". Murder isn't an experiment because murder has one result - death.

You stated in one of your previous posts that once we have a conclusion, it's no longer an experiment. I suppose you clarified what you meant here, but it was confusing since an experiment is an experiment even when you have a conclusion.

A better example, perhaps, would be "is this gas lethal?" Then it is an experiment, which could end in death and could indeed lead to murder, but might not.
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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1805290)
Trump says make America great again. The Klan wants to **** their daughters, Trump wants to **** his daughter. Some of it might be a little hyperbolic but it's still there. They both probably wanted to hang Obama too. His whole birther movement was completely racist and would never happen if Obama was white.

Mmm. Don't we all? ;)
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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1805364)
You missed the point I was making completely. Yes, Trump is "racist"...but so is everyone to some extent. FDR was a racist. JFK was a racist to some extent and misogynistic.

Yeah, but nobody has been as open about it or indeed used it to drive their presidential campaign. There is a difference here.

Chula Vista 02-15-2017 03:27 PM

One of your finest moments of 2017 so far Troll. My hat is off to you.

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

Not sure Ant understands how obtuse he comes across sometimes with his Trump defenses/excuses.

elphenor 02-15-2017 03:30 PM

It's just unfair that he's been given such a hard to defend character and yet can't back out now gotta feel bad for him

Anteater 02-15-2017 03:35 PM

What excuses? I gave reasonable explanations and illustrated some important differences between people specifically motivated by racism and those who are not. You guys only like to get particular with definitions as long as the argument is something you agree with. It isn't my fault if other people don't agree with me because they're pessimists. I can't force people to step back from their emotions. I said Trump wasn't motivated by racial hatred and people's heads exploded. What a shocker. :D

Also, wasn't that operation that Obama took credit for in regards to Osama something that started under the Bush administration?

Goofle 02-15-2017 03:41 PM

Impeachment :laughing:

Oh you guys.

Chula Vista 02-15-2017 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1805851)

Also, wasn't that operation that Obama took credit for in regards to Osama something that started under the Bush administration?

No. Operation Neptune Spear was 100% Obama's administration. Bush had been out of office for almost three years by that time. Nice try though.

Obama didn't take credit. He deserved full credit. Even my far right family back east gave him props on that one.

It's not that I'm a pessimist in my disagreement with you. It's that our ideologies and outlooks on things don't align. It's like Trump. He calls CNN fake news but thinks Fox is awesome. If you like me I like you. If you don't like me you aren't real.

:rofl:

Chula Vista 02-15-2017 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1805852)
Impeachment :laughing:

Wanna bet? The fact that as many as 12 GOP senators are ready to block one of his nominees, and that Mitch McConnell is behind a full investigation into the Russia thing AFTER ONLY A MONTH of his presidency says a lot.

4 years = 48 months.

1 down, 47 to go. You expect things to get any better anytime soon Goof?

Frownland 02-15-2017 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1805852)
Impeachment :laughing:

Oh you guys.

You can get impeached for being unlikeable and inheriting one of the most difficult presidencies in history, see?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Johnson

Anteater 02-15-2017 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1805853)
No. Operation Neptune Spear was 100% Obama's administration. Bush had been out of office for almost three years by that time. Nice try though.

Obama didn't take credit. He deserved full credit. Even my far right family back east gave him props on this one.

It's not that I'm a pessimist in my disagreement with you. It's that our ideologies and outlooks on things don't align. It's like Trump. He calls CNN fake news but thinks Fox is awesome. If you like me I like you. If you don't like me you aren't real.

:rofl:

You misunderstood my statement. The groundwork for Neptune Spear started before Obama took office, as they narrowed down the region of Pakistan where he was holed up as early as 2008. Was Obama president in 2008? Obama does get credit for everything that came after that point obviously.


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