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Chula Vista 02-24-2017 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808894)
I don't really buy it everyone thinks they're a responsible gun owner

A responsible gun owner is judged by others. Not by the gun owner themself. For example, I consider anyone that open carries a total dickweed, unless they are way out in the middle of east bum**** USA.

Dickweed:

http://www.range365.com/sites/range3...?itok=JdA_XgtF

Chula Vista 02-24-2017 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1808897)
I agree with that too which I've gotten crap for in the past, but I just really don't like guns and find them completely unnecessary for anyone to own.. Guess it's just one of those things where I let my bias cloud my objective reasoning.

There's a bail bond company out here that has the perfect slogan that also works in regards to gun ownership.

"It's better to know me, and not need me. Than to need me, and not know me."

DwnWthVwls 02-24-2017 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808900)
This is strictly my opinion but when a break and enter criminal gets shot to death I just feel bad for the criminal dick move to use a gun as self defense over your ****ing TV or some **** just call the cops

That's pretty much what I was getting at when I asked Batlord if it's okay to shoot robbers..

Chula Vista 02-24-2017 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808900)
I'm sure that guy uses similar reasons to why you want an intruder to hear you loading the gun to justify why he wants everyone to see he has a gun

You are comparing a guy walking through a family restaurant with a person who's defending their home and family from an intruder?


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This is strictly my opinion but when a break and enter criminal gets shot to death I just feel bad for the criminal dick move to use a gun as self defense over your ****ing TV or some **** just call the cops
When a person breaks into your home do you stop and question their intentions? If I yell that I have a gun, then cock it, and an intruder decides to still proceed up the stairs? Sorry, but I'm going to be in 100% defense mode based on self preservation for me and mine.

Chula Vista 02-24-2017 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808905)
I also think you're seeing things like they happen in the movies like you're gonna go Die Hard on some criminals ass when in reality all you're probably doing is inviting a shootout you don't want when there's kids in the house

I mean you do you, the odds that the gun ever leaves the safe at all are minuscule

First off my youngest child is 28. Second off, you're 100% right. The odds are miniscule. Thirdly, I'd rather have one and never have to use it, than experience a situation where I wished I had one.

I've been to the range a number of times and have fired a few hundred rounds. I practice all of the safety rules and completely respect my firearm. It's not a show off piece, i.e; Die Hard. You're the one stuck in Hollywood, not me.

Can you name the 4 rules of gun safety? I have them memorized.

DwnWthVwls 02-24-2017 10:05 PM

I'm gonna guess before you spoil it.. I know nothing about guns.

1. Don't aim it at other people you don't intend to shoot.
2. Keep the safety on
3. Don't keep one in the chamber
4. Don't keep the clip in

Edit: Also, curious if you call the cops in your break in scenario or if you just plan to handle it yourself and call afterward. You didn't mention anything about their involvement.

Paul Smeenus 02-24-2017 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1808848)


Looks like a Chick Track

Chula Vista 02-24-2017 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1808908)
I'm gonna guess before you spoil it.. I know nothing about guns.

1. Don't aim it at other people you don't intend to shoot.
2. Keep the safety on
3. Don't keep one in the chamber
4. Don't keep the clip in

Great guesses.

1. Always assume a weapon is loaded. (My avatar is Terry Kath. Accidently killed himself because of thinking a gun was unloaded. Clip was out but a round was still in the chamber)
2. Never have a firearm aimed at anything you are not willing to destroy.
3. Keep your booger finger off of the bang switch until you are 100% ready to actually shoot.
4. Always be aware of what's in the background.

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Edit: Also, curious if you call the cops in your break in scenario or if you just plan to handle it yourself and call afterward. You didn't mention anything about their involvement.
Sure. I have a phone in my bedroom. If I knew a stranger was in my home I'd retrieve my Glock, shout out a warning, and then dial 911. The nearest police station to my home is...... actually, I don't even know how far away it is. I have a fire station about a half mile away, so that's pretty cool.

Chula Vista 02-24-2017 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808913)
nah nvm

Google: Articulation.

Don't cop out. I'd love to keep up the discussion with lots of real words, but if you want to bail, that's fine too.

OccultHawk 02-25-2017 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808900)
I'm sure that guy uses similar reasons to why you want an intruder to hear you loading the gun to justify why he wants everyone to see he has a gun


This is strictly my opinion but when a break and enter criminal gets shot to death I just feel bad for the criminal dick move to use a gun as self defense over your ****ing TV or some **** just call the cops

And more heinous crimes are overwhelmingly committed by people close to you not by random break-ins

The **** if I'm waiting around to see what they want.


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