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DwnWthVwls 02-15-2017 06:09 PM

I'd agree that the muslim ban is xenophobic considering the countries targeted, but border policy is necessary as a matter of function. And don't go giving me that elph argument of "Germany is just fine without it" because we are not Germany. The US is not in a position to take on a bunch more people right now, it's not xenophobic or racist. We have enough problems with the lower class that aren't being addressed and you want to take on a bigger burden?

For the record, I don't agree with the wall, and I think people should be allowed to come here, but they need to do it through the proper channels. And you completely ignored my question about border policies in Canada/Mexico. Are they xenophobic/racist?

Frownland 02-15-2017 06:10 PM

I say that it's driven by racism because his justifications for the wall was to keep the rapists and murderers out, not because of any (although outlandishly overblown) real world issues that we see from immigration (which aren't exactly the fault of immigrants, but that's another convo).

DwnWthVwls 02-15-2017 06:14 PM

We are not analyzing his justifications. We are analyzing the policies themselves. And I'm still waiting for my question to be answered.

elphenor 02-15-2017 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1805886)
unless he is trying to enact policy that is in fact racist.

uh

where have you been

Frownland 02-15-2017 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1805899)
We are not analyzing his justifications. We are analyzing the policies themselves. And I'm still waiting for my question to be answered.

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1805886)
I think Anteater made it pretty clear multiple times that regardless if Trump is a racist or not, his policies are not driven by racism.

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To answer your question: hells yes let's take more on.

DwnWthVwls 02-15-2017 06:17 PM

That's not the question I was talking about.. I asked 2x now if the border policies of Canada and Mexico are xenophobic/racist towards Americans.

elphenor 02-15-2017 06:19 PM

Yes the giant billion dollar walls they built to keep us out are super racist yo

Frownland 02-15-2017 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1805904)
That's not the question I was talking about.. I asked 2x now if the border policies of Canada and Mexico are xenophobic/racist towards Americans.

Ah, didn't catch that. I think that Mexico's border policy is not racist because it is essentially nonexistent lol. Canada's might be, I don't know much about it. What do you think is racist about it?

DwnWthVwls 02-15-2017 06:23 PM

Nothing. Border policies are not made to keep out specific people. They are made to keep out everyone unless they are approved to enter because they serve as a tool to keep that country's systems functioning. If Germany has open policy that's great, they either don't have enough people migrating to matter or they have systems in place to deal with it. We however do not, it's just that simple.

elphenor 02-15-2017 06:24 PM

When Canada enacted a weight limit for entering Canada I thought that might be a little racist towards Americans tbh


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