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i bet that elphenor vs lucem immigration argument was great

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Originally Posted by bulbasaur (Post 1816905)

i bet that elphenor vs lucem immigration argument was great

It was boring. To be fair, even though I won, there isn't much information out there on illegal immigration on Canada because it's such a non issue there.

And my main point was that it's harder to immigrate to other 1st world countries than it is to immigrate to the US.

so, you won the argument, right?

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Originally Posted by bulbasaur (Post 1816909)

so, you won the argument, right?

Of course. I win about 100% of arguments about 70% of the time.

Edit: Except that one time I lost an argument in the 70th percentile.

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1816848)

I think you might have quoted me when I was still mid-edit. This was the final one:

4. was in reference to Israel, Tibet, etc.

I will have to google this, I still don't know what you are talking about.

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1816848)

My reference to 7. is that Hillary Clinton has flip flopped on environmental issues in the past and supported TPP which has a noted track record of being anti-environmental. Just because she never said global warming was a Chinese hoax doesn't mean she's that much better on those issues. Bernie would have been better than her in this area.

She still would have been better in that area than a straight up climate change denier though.

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1816848)

My point on 12. is based on stuff she's said (African-American children 'superpredators') plus her and Bill's history during his first few years dealing with certain pieces of legislation back in the 90's, which you can read about more in detail here. https://www.thenation.com/article/hi...peoples-votes/

Oh yes I do remember that and some BLM members had their panties in a bunch over those statements from the 90s. The thing that bothered me was how she ended up treating them and kind of brushing them off it shows that her opinions haven't really changed much just only on the surface to get those black votes.

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1816890)

Well, yeah, you get opinions from the more facts you know. But the point of discussing is to share the information and gain it. Like, to educate them and yourself. You can't go in thinking you know everything. It's not an easy thing to do. To actually discuss politics rationally. Or anything with passion in it. But god damn I just get so sick of seeing people that don't even try. Because it's so much easier just to talk ****.

If you get so sick of seeing people not even try then why do you bother coming to this thread if you feel like that's the general vibe in here?

You are doing just like you say. It's easy to come in here and talk **** about the same people you don't like instead of sharing your opinion on a specific topic that comes up.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1816916)

If you get so sick of seeing people not even try then why do you bother coming to this thread if you feel like that's the general vibe in here?

You are doing just like you say. It's easy to come in here and talk **** about the same people you don't like instead of sharing your opinion on a specific topic that comes up.

Hoping it'll change? I don't know. It's not just this thread, it's the general discussion it's self.

I have shared my opinion and actually discussed things, but yeah, you're right. I essentially end up talking **** on people that talk ****.

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1816925)

That's the thing you have to come to realize when talking about politics not much is going to change the other person's perspective/opinion. Very rarely does it happen so if that's your intent that you are definitely in the wrong topic of discussion.

Each person says their side/opinion and then you move on because you eventually get to a point in the conversation where you just have to agree to disagree. I have done this numerous times talking to Trump supporter friends on FB. They respect my ability to have a conversation without having to dive into insults.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1816725)

1. He's an entitled dick that was born with a silver spoon up his ass.
2. He's not qualified to hold the job.
3. His cabinet (except for Mattis) if filled with very rich people who have vested interests in getting richer rather than helping the country.
4. He's going to damage the reputation of the US with our allies.
5. He's going to embolden our enemies with his rhetoric.
6. His policies are geared towards the wealthy at the expense of the lower class.
7. He doesn't give two ****s about the environment.
8. He's going to stack the supreme court with bible thumpers.
9. He's an embarrassment.
10. His VP thinks that evolution is a theory and wants creationism taught in schools.
11. He emboldens folks like Limbaugh, Hannity, and O'Reilly.
12. He makes racists feel good about themselves.
13. He's a misogynist.
14. Steve Bannon? Really? Steve ****ing Bannon?
15. I simply dislike the guy.

But other than that, he's cool, yeah? :laughing:

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Was watching the CNN series last night about the 80s and the whole stock market, Wall Street boom where lots of white collar folks got mega-rich on the backs of the blue collar working class. Trump was featured a number of times and the dude back then came off just as arrogant, unappologetic, entitled, and as pompous as he does today.

I could go on......

You should watch him on the Apprentice. The guy had more money than God, and any time a former winner, or someone who had made something of themselves came back on the show he ALWAYS said something along the lines of "This guy/girl made a fortune but I get nothing" with a pointed look and a crooked smile at the person. He tried to make it look like it was in fun, but really he was serious, you could tell. It was a real case of "I MADE you. You OWE me!" He was only short of putting out his hand expectantly. ****.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1816732)

I'm not Chula but he acts like Idi Amin and he's the president of the most powerful country in the world. He is an existential threat. Not just to Chula but to all of humanity. It's very disturbing that you can't see that.

I have nightmare visions of Trump with the briefcase with the codes going "You're all FIRED!"

And we are.
:yikes:

The Apocalypse will resume right after these messages from Trump Realty and Undertakers Corporation.

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Originally Posted by trollheart (Post 1816929)

but other than that, he's cool, yeah? :laughing:

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1816928)

And I've noticed that too and appreciate you for it. And at the end of the day when you can have a civilized conversation you end up at least having a better understanding or a respect for somebody you disagree with. And it kind of like, makes that person less of an enemy rather than leaving a bitter taste in your mouth. And that's how a political discussion should be. In my opinion. But hey, not only should I expect less out of a political discussion, but I should expect less out of a political discussion on the internet.