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OccultHawk 04-08-2017 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1821235)
private property itself is a state created institution there's nothing natural about it

church!!!!!!

Mindfulness 04-08-2017 04:26 PM

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Goofle 04-08-2017 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1821235)
private property itself is a state created institution there's nothing natural about it

Private property is a moral principle that can exist without a state. And I never argued it was natural, so I'm not sure why you brought it up.

elphenor 04-08-2017 04:47 PM

Because you don't have inequality of wealth until you have property

The Batlord 04-08-2017 04:49 PM

All you need for inequality is for one guy to have resources to bargain for the loyalty of at least one other guy.

elphenor 04-08-2017 04:58 PM

Yeah but the whole nature of "have" requires force aka a gun to everyone's head

The Batlord 04-08-2017 05:09 PM

I imagine the whole idea of "mine, mine, mine" is so pervasive throughout human history/pre-history that your (possible) ideas of abolishing it are laughable. People want ****. People have a habit of figuring out how to get ****. It's how we figured out how to use sticks to get ants out of anthills for food. Lo and behold we have Wallstreet.

Chula Vista 04-08-2017 05:11 PM

**** Wall Street.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destru..._Mongol_Empire

elphenor 04-08-2017 05:11 PM

You have to have the means to basically steal something that belonged to everyone so that it now belongs only to you

It's the original violence upon which all monarchies stand

elphenor 04-08-2017 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1821294)
I imagine the whole idea of "mine, mine, mine" is so pervasive throughout human history/pre-history that your (possible) ideas of abolishing it are laughable. People want ****. People have a habit of figuring out how to get ****. It's how we figured out how to use sticks to get ants out of anthills for food. Lo and behold we have Wallstreet.

We already have the answer it's called Democracy


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