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Old 03-27-2017, 01:22 PM   #4111 (permalink)
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Greed and any form of government that humans take part in go hand in hand.
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What does small government mean to you?

Greed and small government go hand in hand.
I was talking about their greed and opportunities, not ours.
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Old 03-27-2017, 02:48 PM   #4113 (permalink)
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I was talking about their greed and opportunities, not ours.
Yes with their greed and less involvement from regulations that come from the government is what is known as small government to me.

Small government means less regulations, if you leave them to regulate themselves then they will take as much advantage as they can to make more profit including destroying the environment in the process and taking MORE advantage of their labor force.
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Yes with their greed and less involvement from regulations that come from the government is what is known as small government to me.

Small government means less regulations, if you leave them to regulate themselves then they will take as much advantage as they can to make more profit including destroying the environment in the process and taking MORE advantage of their labor force.
Agreed, but a real small government supporter does so because he actually believes that small government will benefit society as a whole, and is not actually a ****, as opposed to someone like Trump, whose motivations, no matter what he tells himself, are likely all about how much money he can plunder from small government.
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You're the only one saying there'd be zero incentive. If you want to come in here and pout about argumentative tactics, then you shouldn't be strawmanning all over the place.
I really love it when you 100% nail what I was about to post.

Ant's biggest problem is he thinks he's intellectually superior to the rest of us in regard to politics. That he's the only one doing research. That his opinions are somehow superior because, well, they are his. That anyone who doesn't jump on board with his ideals is somehow uninformed, hesitant to dig deep, or just plain below his standards of political discussion.

Kii - nailed it. I'm going to start reading Ant as Trump form now on.
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Kii - nailed it. I'm going to start reading Ant as Trump form now on.
It makes the posts so much more bearable and funny. You'll never get upset again.
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You can say goodbye to most of what you (likely) enjoy about modern life if the corporations all leave. The government will monopolize everything and what little efficiency we have will cease. Nobody is going to want to take on the responsibility of managing large infrastructure (which you have whether we have capitalism or no capitalism) for pennies when there's no gain. If you think the risk of corruption is a problem now, wait 'til you see what happens when there's zero incentive.

I support a lot of Sanders wanted in regards to overhauling government, but you think Sanders wants to live in a country where he can't feasibly afford to have his three homes and the best in everything? Puh-leeze.
When corporations leave small buiz will take their place and the gov can pick up the slack where needed
(Gov can accomplish crazy things when you have people who believe in the public good)

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This is if we accept your claim that they'll leave anyway

If we decide we aren't allowing them to sell their products here unless they pay our taxes majority will fold they need us

Our middle class consumes so much
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Chula's biggest problem is he thinks he's intellectually superior to the rest of us in regard to politics. That he's the only one doing research. That his opinions are somehow superior because, well, they are his. That anyone who doesn't jump on board with his ideals is somehow uninformed, hesitant to dig deep, or just plain below his standards of political discussion.
Oh look, all I had to do was change one name and suddenly it fits so much better.

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You're the only one saying there'd be zero incentive. If you want to come in here and pout about argumentative tactics, then you shouldn't be strawmanning all over the place.
Anyone who has spent more than five seconds studying something like Communism (or human behavior in general) would come to the same conclusion. A person will not work harder than someone else if everyone is being paid the same despite variation in productivity between people. Is the commonality between all of us known as human laziness a strawman?
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Oh look, all I had to do was change one name and suddenly it fits so much better.
That's exactly what Donald Trump would have done.
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