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djchameleon 02-06-2017 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1803222)
You think he didn't? :laughing:

You know why he had to do those Orders? He was too busy trying to be Bi-partisan during the first two years and when that didn't work. They forced his hand to do those orders to get certain things done.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-06-2017 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1803223)
Did you seriously just quote Infowars? I'd say that means you just lost the debate by default.

Alex Jones gets all his information from VERY reputable sources...

in the new Joe Rogan podcast he talks about the psychic vampires and the interdimensional communication from the Elite to drain the energy from our youth

... no seriously.

Lisnaholic 02-06-2017 06:55 AM

At one simplistic level, good governing is like good parenting. Like the law about wearing a crash helmet on a motorbike; a sunny day on an empty road and you may not want to do it, but you know it makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1803200)
And I think him signing that deal to build that pipeline is absolutely the horrible corrupt decision making I was expecting. It will create a few temporary jobs that will vanish quickly and is moving in the opposite direction the we need to go in order to start preventing catastrophic climate change.

^ At last someone has mentioned this clear-cut example of terrible parenting."Let's forget about long-term irreversible harm to the environment of the whole planet. Let's sacrifice that for the short term benefit of the USA."
That's an approach typically taken by commercial companies clamouring for profits, which is why they should be regulated by a government that sees a bigger picture. Unfortunately, Trump is parenting on the Homer Simpson model, "Sure Bart, eat all the candy you want and no need to brush your teeth afterwards. Dental decay is just a scam cooked up by scientists, like global warming."

I think pro-fossil Trump with his scorn for alternative fuels is going to be more damaging, long-term, than his clumsy meddling with the immigration rules.

Psy-Fi 02-06-2017 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1802973)
Food for thought...


I didn't get the Batman reference at first. Then I found this...


Goofle 02-06-2017 09:13 AM

Batman created so many YouTubers that day.

DwnWthVwls 02-06-2017 09:26 AM

Why exactly is Sam Harris such a pos? I haven't seen much from him, but he seems pretty reasonable from what I have.

Psy-Fi 02-06-2017 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1803252)
Why exactly is Sam Harris such a pos? I haven't seen much from him, but he seems pretty reasonable from what I have.

Those two Bill Maher clips are the only videos I've seen from him. Can't say I disagree with anything he said in either one.

djchameleon 02-06-2017 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1803252)
Why exactly is Sam Harris such a pos? I haven't seen much from him, but he seems pretty reasonable from what I have.

He wouldn't bother you if you agree with his views on Islams and Muslims in general.

Whenever him and Bill get together they always get under my skin with inaccurate **** that they say. The worse part is like it's not like they don't talk to Muslims where they can find out accurate information it's just that they like to stay willfully ignorant about certain things.

Here's a specific example, when the topic of the Burqa came up. Their minds are only wrapped around women being forced to wear them and not the fact that the women willingly want to wear them.

Also when they decided to bring up the fact that radical Muslims aren't fringe just because it is such a large number. They are still fringe in comparison to the billion of Muslims around the way. So what if they have a fringe army. When you have billions of people practicing one religion a fringe group of radicals can be larger.

The Batlord 02-06-2017 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1803268)
Here's a specific example, when the topic of the Burqa came up. Their minds are only wrapped around women being forced to wear them and not the fact that the women willingly want to wear them.

Translation: all white women have internalized misogyny, but all brown women don't.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-06-2017 12:54 PM

DJ i think you're the one being ignorant on the topic... the point is that no culture or belief system should force an individual to act or dress a certain way because of their sex. it's not about whether they want to, it's about them being forced to.

Exo 02-06-2017 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1803279)
DJ i think you're the one being ignorant on the topic... the point is that no culture or belief system should force an individual to act or dress a certain way because of their sex. it's not about whether they want to, it's about them being forced to.

Sure. But if they want to wear it, let them wear it. Forcing them not to wear it is the same thing as forcing them to wear it. You can't change some people. The work should go towards changing the law not changing the people. The women who get attacked for wearing their burqa or hijab are victims of a hate crime no matter how the assh*le attacking them feels about the laws. Violence is violence. It solves nothing.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-06-2017 01:18 PM

i never said otherwise.

Exo 02-06-2017 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1803291)
i never said otherwise.

I honestly wasn't sure.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-06-2017 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1803294)
I honestly wasn't sure.

i dont think DJ was necessarily saying they shouldnt have a say either. just a tough issue all around because obviously there's no good in going from one extreme to the other.

Exo 02-06-2017 01:49 PM

Donald Trump Is Signing Executive Orders That He Doesn't Read or Understand | GQ

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"For the moment, Mr. Bannon remains the president’s dominant adviser, despite Mr. Trump’s anger that he was not fully briefed on details of the executive order he signed giving his chief strategist a seat on the National Security Council, a greater source of frustration to the president than the fallout from the travel ban."

So there are only two options here. Donald Trump either read this Executive Order and did not understand what placing Steve Bannon on the National Security Council (especially at the expense of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and the Director of National Intelligence) would mean, which is terrifying... OR Donald Trump didn't read the ****ing Executive Order that he signed. Some people would say we should give Trump the benefit of the doubt and assume he just didn't understand and wasn't properly briefed (WHICH AGAIN, IS HORRIFYING IN AND OF ITSELF), but then you get to this chestnut from the Times piece:

"For a man who sometimes has trouble concentrating on policy memos, Mr. Trump was delighted to page through a book that offered him 17 window covering options."

And then you remember this little nugget from Politico a couple weeks back:

"One person who frequently talks to Trump said aides have to push back privately against his worst impulses in the White House... and have to control information that may infuriate him. He gets bored and likes to watch TV."
I uhhhhhhhhh. I know this isn't a hard news article but wow.

Key 02-06-2017 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1803299)
I don't this isn't a hard news article but wow.

Yeah.

Exo 02-06-2017 01:55 PM

Not sure how that happened.

The Batlord 02-06-2017 01:58 PM

OMG four more years of this and I'll have forgotten what it feels like for the gaping maw within my soul to have consumed my ability to laugh.

Anteater 02-06-2017 02:01 PM

The Politico article cited in that Jack Moore article would be so much better if they didn't mix unsubstantiated silliness in by making up a "person" who they talked to about what Trump does in the White House. It's obvious they didn't talk to anyone and created "a person close to Trump" to insert their own narrative. Trump's administration has a lot of real problems, so why not talk to real people who you can quote by name?

The Batlord 02-06-2017 02:02 PM

What the **** is your sig, bitch? I will not be misquoted without monetary compensation!

Anteater 02-06-2017 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1803305)
What the **** is your sig, bitch? I will not be misquoted without monetary compensation!

You said it in a parallel universe where Gary Johnson won the presidency. :)

DwnWthVwls 02-06-2017 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1803287)
Sure. But if they want to wear it, let them wear it. Forcing them not to wear it is the same thing as forcing them to wear it. You can't change some people. The work should go towards changing the law not changing the people. The women who get attacked for wearing their burqa or hijab are victims of a hate crime no matter how the assh*le attacking them feels about the laws. Violence is violence. It solves nothing.

If you watched the video i posted its briefly covered from 6-8minute mark and Sam Harris doesnt seem to disagree. Bill Maher says its not normal and comes off kinda douchey, but neither say they should be forced to dressed "normally".

Im not gonna go off on a tyrade about it but any system/religion/ideaology that tells you what to think instead of teaching you how to think is the enemy of progression and worth criticizing. (Im sure im paraphrasing Dawkins with this but i cant give you a direct quote).

The Batlord 02-06-2017 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1803309)
When I was 14 I was all about dat Dawkins

He is pretty dreamy.

The Batlord 02-06-2017 02:24 PM

I read a Sam Harris book back in the day, but that's pretty much the extent of my Serious Atheist Research. I like arguing that **** on occasion, but **** me I don't understand why so many atheists care so much about this ****. God doesn't exist, fantastic, stupendous, moving on.

DwnWthVwls 02-06-2017 02:34 PM

I really don't care about personas in a logical discussion. The point seems logical to me, I'd love to hear a persuasive contradictory position.

Pet_Sounds 02-06-2017 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1803307)
Im not gonna go off on a tyrade about it but any system/religion/ideaology that tells you what to think instead of teaching you how to think is the enemy of progression and worth criticizing.

However, it's important to remember that there is a fine line between the two and that the former can be disguised as the latter.

Trollheart 02-06-2017 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1803305)
What the **** is your sig, bitch? I will not be misquoted without monetary compensation!

Speaking of which, this month's cheque may be a few days late...
:shycouch:

Edit: Oh you said misquoted! In that case, can I have my money back please?

Exo 02-07-2017 10:46 AM

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/u...=Homepage&_r=0

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WASHINGTON — The Senate confirmed Betsy DeVos on Tuesday as education secretary, approving the embattled nominee only with the help of a historic tiebreaking vote from Vice President Mike Pence.

The 51-to-50 vote elevates Ms. DeVos — a wealthy donor from Michigan who has devoted much of her life to expanding educational choice through charter schools and vouchers, but has limited experience with the public school system — to be steward of the nation’s schools.
FUCK EVERYTHING.

I'm so f*cking pissed off right now it's not even funny. This is the single worst decision since election night. There have been more reckless decisions such as Bannon but this right here is without a doubt one of the most corrupted money hungry f*cking evil goddamn worst decisions I've ever seen. Spineless f*cking John McCain and Rand Paul. F*ck you two forever. You chickensh*ts.

FUCK

Tristan_Geoff 02-07-2017 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1803490)
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/u...=Homepage&_r=0



FUCK EVERYTHING.

I'm so f*cking pissed off right now it's not even funny. This is the single worst decision since election night. There have been more reckless decisions such as Bannon but this right here is without a doubt one of the most corrupted money hungry f*cking evil goddamn worst decisions I've ever seen. Spineless f*cking John McCain and Rand Paul. F*ck you two forever. You chickensh*ts.

FUCK

I can't ****ing believe this actually happened. What the fuck. I'M FUCKING IN SCHOOL RIGHT NOW

The fact that in a matter of months we've gone from Obama to THIS SHIT is seriously fucking depressing. How ****ing DENSE ARE THESE REPUBLICAN MOTHERFUCKERS

Trollheart 02-07-2017 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1803494)
How ****ing DENSE ARE THESE REPUBLICAN MOTHERFUCKERS

Nobody answer that. :mad:

Frownland 02-07-2017 01:06 PM

Very smart move for the Republicans, our public education system is too effective as it is and that's a threat to the future of the GOP.

Paul Smeenus 02-07-2017 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1803490)
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/u...=Homepage&_r=0



FUCK EVERYTHING.

I'm so f*cking pissed off right now it's not even funny. This is the single worst decision since election night. There have been more reckless decisions such as Bannon but this right here is without a doubt one of the most corrupted money hungry f*cking evil goddamn worst decisions I've ever seen. Spineless f*cking John McCain and Rand Paul. F*ck you two forever. You chickensh*ts.

FUCK


+1 trillion

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-07-2017 01:48 PM

we've all been Trumped

Frownland 02-07-2017 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1803556)
Democrats and republicans are both the same though right

right?

Yes.

Frownland 02-07-2017 02:21 PM

If you compare their attitudes and actions like most people who believe that statement instead of zeroing in on policy differences then it's a pretty solid point imo.

Key 02-07-2017 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1803556)
Democrats and republicans are both the same though right

right?

No. Not even close. There's a vast difference between the two.

The Batlord 02-07-2017 06:58 PM

There's a D & R revolution.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-07-2017 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1803643)
No. Not even close. There's a vast difference between the two.

on the surface sure, but when it comes to their actions and their presidencies? not so much.

DwnWthVwls 02-07-2017 07:52 PM

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One love, one life, one too many victims
Republicrat, Democran: one-party system
Media goes in a frenzy
They're stripped of their credentials
Presidential candidates can't debate over this instrumental
Let 'em freestyle, winner takes all
When the music’s dead, I'll have Ted Nugent’s head hangin' on my wall
Kill one of ours, we'll kill one of yours
With some friendly fire, that’s a funny term, like civil war
.

Frownland 02-08-2017 09:42 AM

Donald Trump was carved as a gargoyle in Southwell Minster 700 years ago | The Poke

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