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elphenor 04-30-2017 01:32 PM

Warren looks like she just needs to let her hair down and shed be hawt

If I were a politician id be like Alan Grayson who was too much of a snarky punk to even keep his seat I luv him

He's really the biggest loss of 2016

OccultHawk 04-30-2017 01:36 PM

She's very VERY ****able. You can tell she cums easily, too. Well, with a little dick control. I'd make her ***. Hard. I'm beating off right now, by the way.

Pet_Sounds 04-30-2017 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1829943)
That doesn't really work when you're reading it.

Worked for me. I was listening in my head.

The Batlord 04-30-2017 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1830011)
Worked for me. I was listening in my head.

This is why I vote you off the island.

Chula Vista 04-30-2017 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1830012)
This is why I vote you off the island.

And I'll vote for him to stay.

**** off.

elphenor 04-30-2017 02:48 PM

seriously though Alan Grayson

this is kind of like the politics chat thread, I just want to post this

guy was the only thing good about Florida while I lived there

he lost to this absolute sell out **** face prior Republican who resigned over the Iraq War and then brought his sorry bought ass back as a conservative Democrat

Trollheart 04-30-2017 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1829993)
I'm just pissed our president is ugly. And if Hillary or Bernie had been elected we'd still have an ugly president. What message does that send to the world? Just look at Obama, Bush Jr., and Clinton. Some fine dudes right there. I'm sure that helped with diplomacy and ****. Who wants to make deals with uggos?

Other uggos?

djchameleon 04-30-2017 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1829441)

I'm not assuming anything about welfare, it was just an example. The bolded seems contradictory, youre arguing against my mentality and then saying there isn't anything wrong with it. Which is it?

My point is that I agree with you on needing to final a solution for Welfare fraud. Ny state does a good job of locking people up that they end up catching but it seems a bit more lax in other areas that you guys have stories from.

Currently other alternatives have been reaching their max because of how much the Republicans have kept pushing food stamp cuts. So people end up having to go to churches that give out food. Food pantries are pulling the load that the government isn't currently meeting. Do you think the food stamp program should be gutted even more just so that a few people gaming the system doesn't get away with it while people that need it are harmed in the process? Rhetorical question. I know how you feel about the two separate groups and I don't need you to repeat it. I am listening to what you are saying.

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1829496)
Force people to look for a job of the want assistance.

They do but I believe it varies from state to state which is weird because Bill Clinton put that into place that you either need to be looking for work or go to work sites to do jobs that union workers are getting good benefits for while it pays for assistance. In New York they are called WEP workers and corporations and businesses take advantage of them so much. It is basically free labor for them.


Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1829518)
Sounds good on paper in practice there's actually barely any people who are able to work collecting welfare

Or usually they have a job and still need assistance

So much this.


Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1829526)

Of all the people who disagree with me you are the only one yet to actually say anything, Briks has already contributed more in two posts than you have in 10 pages, elph and I found some areas where we agreed, and DJ was nice to talk to (still waiting to hear back).. When are you going to actually make a post worth considering?

I was down in DC marching for green jobs and climate change along with unions. I was pretty busy.


Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1829593)
I get if you live a life of hardship as working people do there is resentment towards those who appear to be getting a free ride

But the biggest abusers are the uber wealthy elite(government officials included) and it's their theft that mandates poverty ultimately

We fight for the scraps that fall from their mouth

Yep we fight for those trickle down scraps.


Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1829605)
Yeah, that's very true. I don't think government assistance has been big enough of a problem for us to stress about as much as we do. There are much more expensive wastes of money. Like those tax loopholes Trump promised to fix and I haven't heard anything about since he became president.

Okay so Trump is working on the tax code now but they have a lot of details to flesh out. They want to close off a lot of the loophole deductions and stick to a basic three tier percentage. I really don't agree with the upper bracket only having to pay 15%. How are you going to decrease it that much while still spending so much on the military budget. Someone needs to work on their math skills. He was trying to work on the repeal of ACA because it is tied to taxes with the penalties then work on the tax code which would lead to working on infrastructure. It has to be done in that order.

Anteater 04-30-2017 06:32 PM

Greatest Hits Post-Election (feat. Van "Whitelash" Jones)

Lucem Ferre 04-30-2017 06:32 PM

What I think is, despite the fact that I don't think it's that big of an issue, you guys just don't want to accept that undeserving people leach off of welfare at a much higher rate than you have acknowledged because it goes against your views. The idea of the "welfare queen" is not false. They exist. A lot of them. Like I pointed out. 4 out of the 5 people I knew receiving government assistance did not need it. And I know I'm not alone. Being somebody who fully supports government assistance for people like Chula's son, I can't just dance around this fact or ignore it or dismiss it because that's just duplicitous. Instead, my come back is I'd much rather have these lazy people sit on their ass collecting the scraps that we fight for rather than watch people who can't support themselves starve. It's ideal to fix it though. So more people like my sister in law could receive it while people like my dad could get cut off. It'll never be perfect, life will never be completely fair, and people just have to deal with that. Throw a tantrum all you want but I take much much more pride in myself knowing that I earn my scraps and have no problem with some of my scraps going towards the leaches IF I know it will also take care of somebody like Chula's son.

Edit: Also, to disprove stereotypes, the biggest welfare queen I know is a white supremacist Obama hater who named one of their many kids Aryan.

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