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Anteater 01-07-2017 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1792509)
Explain why China is a bigger problem. I've heard people spout that but they never go into detail. Yes I know they own a lot of bonds from us but I feel like economically they are in a weaker position than Russia atm.

There's multiple factors and angles depending on where you focus on. The fact our entertainment industry (especially Hollywood) seem to spend more and more money on films that appeal to Chinese audiences is one trend. Other points of interest are economic (our debts to them, the bonds you mentioned, etc.). And then there's the real estate angle:

Forbes: Chinese investment in U.S. real estate is going strong - October 31st, 2016

A lot of economists simply think that a combination of these factors are a disaster for us in the long run because it gradually gives China more and more leverage over us from different fronts.

Chula Vista 01-07-2017 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1792513)
lol I don't think accepting a call is the same as kissing their ass. This kind of stupid hyperbole is what handed Trump the election.

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Trump’s call with Taiwan was the first time an American president or president-elect has publicly spoken to a Taiwanese leader in nearly four decades. China considers the self-governing island to be its territory and any reference to a separate Taiwanese head of state to be a grave insult.
China official says Trump's Taiwan comments cause 'serious concern' | Fox News

China 'Seriously Concerned' by Donald Trump's Taiwan Comments

China: Trump

Frownland 01-07-2017 08:34 PM

Exactly. Stupid hyperbole and meaningless firsts. Get over it.

Chula Vista 01-07-2017 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1792516)
There's multiple factors.....And then there's the real estate angle:

Indeed:

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/07/us...-business.html

Chula Vista 01-07-2017 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1792518)
Meaningless firsts. Get over it.

Not me. Tell it to China.

Anteater 01-07-2017 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1792519)

China can have New York if they want: let the wonderful residents of the Big Apple have a taste of the Communism/Socialism hybrid they've always wanted. :D

Frownland 01-07-2017 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1792522)
Not me. Tell it to China.

I'll have Trump tell them.


djchameleon 01-08-2017 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1792534)
Diplomacy is a thing that matters

You can't go chest puffing like an ape

I feel like with Russia we are way past the stage of Diplomacy. It is time for some good chest puffing at the moment.

In the ideal scenario, I'd like to see us go to war with Russia and start up World War 3.

Trump would truly go down in the history books for being part of that.

Either that or to see Trump get impeached for treason and all of his sketchy ethics issues that he has going on.

I really want to see the war scenario happen though. So I could get to do a big "told you so" to the idiots that thought with Hillary we would be going to war and thought there wasn't a chance of Trump doing the same thing.

Goofle 01-08-2017 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1792479)
Splain?

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1792480)
Line in the sand (no Chula, not head in the sand). No fly zones. Unwillingness for any Russian diplomacy. Kind of a no brainer really.

https://media.giphy.com/media/6GY01XQBkf3lS/giphy.gif

djchameleon 01-08-2017 07:37 AM

That's not enough to start a war with Russia, they have had to deal with that before with sanctions from the UN and no fly zones established. So it's bullshit to think that Hillary would all of a sudden cause a war with things that Russia has already experienced.


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