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jwb 10-18-2019 08:32 PM
I mean a Jew can respect a Nazi's candor. Doesn't matter them open for negotiation.

The Batlord 10-18-2019 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2084544)
I mean a Jew can respect a Nazi's candor. Doesn't matter them open for negotiation.
I've heard Israel is cozying up to some far right wing types throughout the world.

jwb 10-18-2019 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2084542)
Yeah it's interesting and it always amuses me when the idea of public opinion influences policy even when public opinion amounts to nothing more than people at home who don't know anything screwing up their face and going "I don't like that" and nothing more. If the American public had no place in government decisions then there would be no talk of sanctions and real politik would proceed in at least a relatively consistent manner. But people who claim to care while not actually caring are probably about to tank the economy of people they definitely don't care about while American policy just a week ago implied the exact opposite position (a position which was presumably also influenced or at least justified by public opinion of not wanting to be involved in more Middle Eastern wars).

Democracy is stupid.
well, I think the idea if restraint in warfare actually relies more on international opinion than the domestic opinion of Americans. It's easy to rally a single nation behind a war, compared to justifying war crimes that benefit your nation at the expense of others to an international body like the UN.

jwb 10-18-2019 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2084546)
I've heard Israel is cozying up to some far right wing types throughout the world.
when I said Nazi I was referring to the actual third Reich. Not just any right wing element that liberals will label Nazi for knee jerk reasons.

OccultHawk 10-18-2019 08:46 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/p...ee-frustration

Popeyes 'chicken war' sparks chaos, employee frustration: 'Somebody called me Mr. Slowa--'

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Somebody called me Mr. Slowa--. I’m not stupid. I heard it,” the employee said to someone off-camera, looking very upset.

The bullying did not end there, however. One Popeyes employee claimed to Business Insider that he worked an 11-hour shift and made 600 sandwiches in one day.

CLICK HERE TO GET THE FOX NEWS APP

"I was working like a slave in the back prepping the buns with pickles and the spicy mayo," said Carlos, an 18-year-old Popeyes crew member in California.

"Everyone wanted to quit so bad because it was that bad," Carlos added. "We have never seen it get this insanely busy."

According to data from analytics platform, Placer.ai, traffic to Popeyes skyrocketed on August 20 and 21 – rising 67.6 percent and 103.3 percent over the same dates in 2018.

The Batlord 10-18-2019 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2084548)
well, I think the idea if restraint in warfare actually relies more on international opinion than the domestic opinion of Americans. It's easy to rally a single nation behind a war, compared to justifying war crimes that benefit your nation at the expense of others to an international body like the UN.
I mean international opinion and domestic American opinions are equally as stupid and useless and cause democracy to be stupid and useless. When you see, read, or hear analysis of government policy it often interweaves purely pragmatic government decisions and government decisions based on public opinion as if one does not influence the other in nonsensical and schizophrenic ways because modern commentators are generally pro-democracy and pointing out that this spiral of nonsense is in fact nonsense would be admitting an existential problem with democracy.

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2084549)
when I said Nazi I was referring to the actual third Reich. Not just any right wing element that liberals will label Nazi for knee jerk reasons.
Well in Western nations the far right tend to be anti-Semitic regardless of whether it's logical for them to be.

OccultHawk 10-18-2019 09:03 PM
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Well in Western nations the far right tend to be anti-Semitic regardless of whether it's logical for them to be.
That’s the one thing the far right and the far left and moderates all agree on. Israel shouldn’t do what it has to do to exist. If this whole **** that they should sit idly by while Hamas & Hezbollah or whoever blow up their **** and mass murder them week after week isn’t antisemitism then nothing is.

The Batlord 10-18-2019 09:12 PM
*Palestinian blows up Israeli building*

OH: Kill the barbarian!

*Native American blows up American building*

OH: Kill us barbarians!

OccultHawk 10-18-2019 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2084554)
*Palestinian blows up Israeli building*

OH: Kill the barbarian!

*Native American blows up American building*

OH: Kill us barbarians!
That’s right. I hate America and Islam.

Catfight
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Presidential candidate Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) did not hold back Friday when responding to 2016 nominee Hilary Clinton's suggestion that she is the "favorite of the Russians" for 2020, excoriating the former secretary of State as "the queen of warmongers" and "personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party."
Hillary jelly. I think Bill did some Gabby dickin

Mindfulness 10-19-2019 04:49 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtCI9pk-Ago
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debaserr 10-19-2019 06:49 PM
Really don't how the misogyny is adding to the discussion here fellas.

Frownland 10-19-2019 06:52 PM
OH thinks that being a rapist is woke.

Anteater 10-19-2019 07:38 PM
Gabbard is friggin' gorgeous.

OccultHawk 10-19-2019 07:40 PM
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**** Rand Paul in the ass with a broken glass *****

OccultHawk 10-19-2019 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2084688)
Gabbard is friggin' gorgeous.
Church

Psy-Fi 10-20-2019 06:49 AM
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I had to pause and wank when gabbard was on. If she’d parade around topless on a horse like Putin I’d throw a buck in her g-string.
Here's a two-fer from Ted fer ya...


Ted Nugent - Cat Scratch Fever


Ted Nugent - Wang Dang Sweet Poontang

OccultHawk 10-20-2019 09:22 AM
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How do we hold on to these contributions that the world would be so much more boring, among other things, if it weren’t for black people? How do we hold on to those and also let go of our race?

I think I do it every day. I still go home and I’ll listen to Gunna or Lil Baby and that’ll feel culturally relevant to me. I’ll listen to John Coltrane. I’ll see something that’s familiar to me in even black British writer like Zadie Smith or I’ll look at Kerry James Marshall paintings and I’ll notice his blackness there, but I don’t think I have to believe it’s a biological reality. There was a community of people that went through certain experiences and circumstances over the course of a period of time in the new world and they created cultural traditions that many people who look like them upheld.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...ooks-interview

No wiki page... I wonder why...

OccultHawk 10-20-2019 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 2084703)
Here's a two-fer from Ted fer ya...


Ted Nugent - Cat Scratch Fever


Ted Nugent - Wang Dang Sweet Poontang
Unassailable

Chula Vista 10-20-2019 09:38 AM
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Unassailable
Hearing Stranglehold at 15 was a game-changer! Just like Trower with Bridge of Sighs a year earlier.

OccultHawk 10-20-2019 09:41 AM
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Hearing Stranglehold at 15 was a game-changer! Just like Trower with Bridge of Sighs a year earlier.
Word em up son

Surprised nuge didn’t sneak into your life a little earlier but yeah stranglehold is goddamn spiritual - that guitar solo still shatters

which one of the Dems are you liking so far?

Chula Vista 10-20-2019 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2084725)
Surprised nuge didn’t sneak into your life a little earlier but yeah stranglehold is goddamn spiritual - that guitar solo still shatters

which one of the Dems are you liking so far?
I'd heard Center of your Mind but didn't make the connection till much later. I really think being 12 in 1972 might have been about the perfect age/time to start learning guitar.

Don't like anyone for 2020.

OccultHawk 10-20-2019 10:07 AM
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I'd heard Center of your Mind but didn't make the connection till much later. I really think being 12 in 1972 might have been about the perfect age/time to start learning guitar.
Ahhh that makes sense. I forgot you’re even older than I am. So you heard Stranglehold basically right when it came out in 75. I still have one Amboy Dukes on vinyl. It’s a weird and maybe unofficial release. It’s Call of the Wild but it opens with Journey to the Center of the Mind. Don’t ask me how. They may have just added that track because nobody would buy Call of the Wild. I had no idea it wasn’t originally on that record. I bought it for that track that I heard on the radio.

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Don't like anyone for 2020.
I can totally understand that.

Chula Vista 10-20-2019 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2084738)
So you heard Stranglehold basically right when it came out in 75?
Yup. Born in May 1960.
Fun fact: Physical Graffiti was the first vinyl album to get awarded platinum sales status on advance orders alone.

I was one of the million. Got it home and listened to all 4 sides straight through with a red light on and stoned out of my mind.

Hearing 'Kashmir' and 'In the Light' the first time............ :yikes:

Mindfulness 10-21-2019 05:05 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYrY_945co0

Chula Vista 10-21-2019 05:11 PM
Interesting story brewing concerning possible insider trading based on a tip from someone within the EPA.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/21/polit...nvs/index.html

Mindfulness 10-22-2019 04:53 PM
Trump
Law
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LemuKa0GAKM

Mindfulness 10-22-2019 05:16 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUtK7J_oMvU
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NowThis News
Oct 22, 2019
A man in a MAGA hat sprayed protesters with bear repellant after a pro-impeachment march in Santa Monica.
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Mindfulness 10-22-2019 05:44 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTheWoRI81o
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PBS NewsHour
Oct 22, 2019



Bill Taylor, acting U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, testified Tuesday as part of the House impeachment inquiry. Taylor’s detailed explanation of how U.S. military aid and the White House meeting that Ukraine’s president desired were both contingent upon investigations of President Trump’s Democratic rivals drew surprised gasps from the room. Yamiche Alcindor reports and joins Judy Woodruff to discuss.
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Chula Vista 10-22-2019 06:11 PM
At this point they're just increasing the font and adding underlines.
McConnell goes public calling Trump a liar. And he's pushing a bill to
tie his hands on Syria.

He loses McConnell he loses the Senate majority.

Anteater 10-22-2019 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2085133)
At this point they're just increasing the font and adding underlines.
McConnell goes public calling Trump a liar. And he's pushing a bill to
tie his hands on Syria.

He loses McConnell he loses the Senate majority.
Ain't happening.

Psy-Fi 10-25-2019 10:03 AM
Shocking photos of Congresswoman Katie Hill are revealed showing off Nazi-era tattoo while smoking a bong, kissing her female staffer and posing nude on 'wife sharing' sites

Show us the uncensored pics.

Flaming Skull, baby! :pimp:

OccultHawk 10-25-2019 10:17 AM
She’s got my vote now

Mindfulness 10-25-2019 10:22 AM
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She’s got my vote now
yeah hanging out in the nude, and smoking marijuana the classy way, from a bong, makes me like her more :love:

OccultHawk 10-25-2019 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 2085616)
yeah hanging out in the nude, and smoking marijuana the classy way, from a bong, makes me like her more :love:
I can’t believe her husband was abusive. You got a wife, cute, brings home another sexy woman, gets high, and she pays the bills.

She needs to lose the zero and get with this hero. I’d be treating that **** like GOLD, son. That’s some golden pussy right there.

Chula Vista 10-25-2019 03:03 PM
Saw some interviews at a state fair deep in Trump country. A few blind defenders, some buying in to the 'secret testimony' BS, some copping out with the ole 'waste of taxpayer money', but a number saying along the lines of "I use to think they were out to get him, but everyone can't be lying like he says all the time".

He's toast in 2020. Took much longer than I expected, but buyers remorse is finally starting to creep into his base.

This is fun! :tramp::tramp::tramp:

Can a mod rename the *tramp* smilie to *trump*?

OccultHawk 10-25-2019 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2085685)
Saw some interviews at a state fair deep in Trump country. A few blind defenders, some buying in to the 'secret testimony' BS, some copping out with the ole 'waste of taxpayer money', but a number saying along the lines of "I use to think they were out to get him, but everyone can't be lying like he says all the time".

He's toast in 2020. Took much longer than I expected, but buyers remorse is finally starting to creep into his base.

This is fun! :tramp::tramp::tramp:

Can a mod rename the *tramp* smilie to *trump*?
Are we still going to have a general election?

Psy-Fi 10-25-2019 03:33 PM

Chula Vista 10-25-2019 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2085686)
Are we still going to have a general election?
WTFK????
That's why this is fun. Truly unprecedented. Nothing at all like Nixon or Clinton.
Our first 'reality show' impeachment - with a direct line to the impeachee via Twitter.

Chula Vista 10-25-2019 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2085685)
"I use to think they were out to get him, but everyone can't be lying like he says all the time".
See, a good portion of Trump's core base were parents to little kids. They can tell when someone's telling a fib.

Edit: This just in:

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A federal judge on Friday gave a legal endorsement to the House Democrats' impeachment probe into President Donald Trump and ordered the Justice Department to release grand jury information redacted from special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation.

Frownland 10-25-2019 03:54 PM
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