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Trollheart 08-15-2017 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mord (Post 1864438)

Absolutely not. Would you not be tempted, if she were your daughter?
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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1864490)
So, when are you Americans going to storm the White House and kick the president out?
He's no better than Putin or some other leader of less reputable nations. It's disgraceful to see the supposedly great, free, Democratic nation of the US sink so low. I have no more faith in your government's ability to do the right thing than I do the governments of Russia, China and North Korea. Trump is an aggressive, simple minded monkey with launch codes. How the hell did that happen?
Seeing the president of China advise Trump to take it easy on the rhetoric towards North Korea... Never thought I'd see the day!

And what's with the whole Charlottesville farce? He's an alt-right, white supremacist sympathizer too now? Or rather, it's confirmed now, but he probably always was. People used to insist he wasn't far right. Sure. I seriously hope he gets assassinated. I'm not a US citizen, so the CIA can't touch me for writing that :laughing:

Yeah, that's right, and those big black unmarked helicopters that just appeared hovering outside your window are nothing to worry about...
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1864508)
He offends you as a grammar Nazi more than as an American?

More as a Nazi Nazi, I would say.
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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1864611)
God damn it, Chula.

What? He's talking about a deep government probe into whether poetry was used to influence the election: inVERStigation.

Zhanteimi 08-15-2017 08:28 AM

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Frownland 08-15-2017 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mord (Post 1864720)
I've spent way more time than I should thinking about Chula's DILF.

Urban Dictionary: DILF

:pssst:

Zhanteimi 08-15-2017 08:35 AM

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Trollheart 08-15-2017 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mord (Post 1864720)
I've spent way more time than I should thinking about Chula's DILF.

Haven't we all?
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1864721)

You know what he meant...
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Originally Posted by Mord (Post 1864722)
Fuck

We know what you meant.

djchameleon 08-15-2017 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1864719)
Absolutely not. Would you not be tempted, if she were your daughter?

Negative! :nono:

My own flesh and blood wouldn't be tempting no matter what she looks like.

:banghead:

Chula Vista 08-15-2017 03:46 PM

Did anyone watch the Trump press conference just now? :yikes::yikes::yikes:

A 100% ad-libbing Trump in front of a throng of rabid reporters and he just couldn't help himself. So much for the teleprompter speech he gave on Monday. Ancient history.

At one point he went so far as to say that there were good people on both sides of what happened on Saturday. Then he defended the white supremacy side by saying "at least they had a permit - did the other side?"

And it went on and on and on. I seriously thought I was watching a movie. It was so surreal. Be sure to check out the news tonight. Wow.

This is Fox New's initial take:

Trump decries 'alt-left' in Charlottesville: 'Do they have any semblance of guilt?' | Fox News

debaserr 08-15-2017 03:48 PM

Those bastards, getting run over by cars and stuff, the nerve!

Paedantic Basterd 08-15-2017 03:54 PM

I watch House of Cards because reality is too disturbing for me.

djchameleon 08-15-2017 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 1864807)
Those bastards, getting run over by cars and stuff, the nerve!

A few people on MB wanted to do that to BLM protesters and their wet dreams came true.

There are a couple of states that have passed legislation okaying it as well.

Chula Vista 08-15-2017 04:19 PM

One of the most surreal moments was when Trump said "They pulled down a statue of General Lee. What's next, George Washington? He had slaves. How about Thomas Jefferson? You all like Jefferson, right? Well he had slaves. Should we pull down his statues?"

:banghead::banghead::banghead:

Washington died 66 years before slavery was abolished. Jefferson, 39 years.

Plus both guys didn't command troups to kill fellow Americans.

What a buffoon. His ignorance is unprecidented.

Frownland 08-15-2017 04:33 PM

What a stupid thing for him to say. I just can't find the motivation to think his comments are anything to fret over.

debaserr 08-15-2017 05:03 PM

You are an idiot then.

Frownland 08-15-2017 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 1864831)
You are an idiot then.

Most likely. I'm more concerned with actually addressing the problem instead of being mad that the person who holds a seat that I don't respect didn't condemn the problem well enough because condemnation is an empty action. Not to mention that I'm so used to him making moronic, off-the cuff remarks that it barely even registers with me anymore.

Or did he say something along the lines of cancelling the civil rights investigation because both sides were violent? Now that would piss me off.

Also note the OP. You can't call people idiots without telling them why.

debaserr 08-15-2017 05:18 PM

He is normalizing terrorism against his own people and openly supporting the wrongdoers.

He is the most powerful man on this planet and he has unilateral authority to engage in nuclear war.

I'm scared, this isn't cool.

I'll show myself out. I don't have the patience to regularly engage in this thread. Low stamina! Sad!

Chula Vista 08-15-2017 05:19 PM

The big issue here is the chair he sits in. Whether you respect the seat or not doesn't matter because it's not about any individual. The guy is the commander in chief of, and represents 300 million people. He's the leader of the free world. Our allies look to him to be strong. Our enemies look for cracks in his amour.

Frownland 08-15-2017 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 1864835)
He is normalizing terrorism against his own people and openly supporting the wrongdoers.

It must suck to condemn something only to be told that you openly support it because you also condemn something else. Honestly, I think that Trump just thinks that Southern whites are all racist and is trying to cater to them.


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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1864836)
The big issue here is the chair he sits in. Whether you respect the seat or not doesn't matter because it's not about any individual. The guy is the commander in chief of, and represents 300 million people. He's the leader of the free world. Our allies look to him to be strong. Our enemies look for cracks in his amour.

So we're gonna get invaded or what? What is the difference between now and the hours before he made the comment? Is this the nail in the coffin or just another piece of the bed?

Cuthbert 08-15-2017 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 1864835)
Low stamina! Sad!

:rofl:

Chula Vista 08-15-2017 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1864837)
So we're gonna get invaded or what?

Once the smoke clears I predict his approval dips down to 30%. The GOP house and senate are going to distance themselves from him like crazy. After what he said on Saturday, the scripted BS he said yesterday was starting to calm the storm. After today the country's in a category 5 hurricane.

China will watch this. Russia will watch this. North Korea will watch this. ISIS will watch this. And they will all laugh and realize that Trump is in the process of tearing the USA apart at the seams.

Have you watched it yet? Far and away the 2nd most insane and surreal political press conference I've ever seen. The 1st being Budd Dwyer of course

It's telling that David Duke immediately took to Twitter to gushingly thank Trump for what he said. Mark my word, this ****storm is not going away anytime soon and the fallout is going to be severe.

Did you see where Trump yesterday tweeted a cartoon of a train crashing into a person with a CNN bobble head? This just days after a neo-nazi crashed into a crowd and killed someone?

Frownland 08-15-2017 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1864841)
Once the smoke clears I predict his approval dips down to 30%. The GOP house and senate are going to distance themselves from him like crazy. After what he said on Saturday, the scripted BS he said yesterday was starting to calm the storm. After today the country's in a category 5 hurricane.

China will watch this. Russia will watch this. North Korea will watch this. ISIS will watch this. And they will all laugh and realize that Trump is in the process of tearing the USA apart at the seams.

Those countries will likely be surprised by the bored hyperactive child that is the modern day news cycle. Drop in the bucket sure, but I don't see it tipping just yet.

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Have you watched it yet? Far and away the 2nd most insane and surreal political press conference I've ever seen. The 1st being Budd Dwyer of course
Weirder yet is that it was an impromptu Q&A session. That's weird as **** for a president.

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It's telling that David Duke immediately took to Twitter to gushingly thank Trump for what he said. Mark my word, this ****storm is not going away anytime soon and the fallout is going to be severe.
I give it a week. News stories don't last that long these days.

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Did you see where Trump yesterday tweeted a cartoon of a train crashing into a person with a CNN bobble head? This just days after a neo-nazi crashed into a crowd and killed someone?
This is breaching new levels of my not caring. I bet he didn't even catch the connection tbh.

Chula Vista 08-15-2017 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1864843)
I give it a week. News stories don't last that long these days.

Have you seen it?

There's news stories, and then every now and then there's a NEWS story.

No matter what Trump has done in the past, he's had apologists. So far, hours after the fact, not a single GOP politician or member of Trump's staff are expressing anything but absolute shock.

Trump's going to go to bed tonight and pray that North Korea fires off a nuke. That's the only thing that could make this go away anytime soon.

Have you seen it?

Just saw a picture of the new Chief of Staff John Kelly standing behind Trump while he was ranting, and the guy looked like he wanted to bum rush Trump and pummel the guy.

Richard Spencer just tweeted: Thank you Mr. Trump for your honesty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Policy_Institute

Frownland 08-15-2017 06:14 PM

I have seen it.

I am also conscious of how other unforgettable things he said were forgotten almost instantly. I guess time will tell how long until we forget about this because we're mad about the next thing.

Chula Vista 08-15-2017 06:22 PM

John Kelly during the press conference. Any body language experts here? :rofl:

http://static1.businessinsider.com/i...ays-it-all.jpg

rostasi 08-15-2017 06:29 PM


djchameleon 08-15-2017 06:35 PM

He said he was fixing inner cities. I'm like what how? It was such a throw away phrase for him. I wish the press picked up on it. They were too busy creaming their pants over him supporting the white nationalists because they had a permit.

He also mentioned that wages will go up because the economy is better. Uhh does he not know where all that extra profit goes, it certainly doesn't go to the low level workers. It is like he doesn't know how capitalism works.

Janszoon 08-15-2017 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1864852)
He said he was fixing inner cities. I'm like what how? It was such a throw away phrase for him. I wish the press picked up on it. They were too busy creaming their pants over him supporting the white nationalists because they had a permit.

He also mentioned that wages will go up because the economy is better. Uhh does he not know where all that extra profit goes, it certainly doesn't go to the low level workers. It is like he doesn't know how capitalism works.

Trump lives in the inner city. The only way to fix it is to kick him out.

Zhanteimi 08-15-2017 07:32 PM

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OccultHawk 08-15-2017 07:42 PM

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It must suck to condemn something only to be told that you openly support it because you also condemn something else. Honestly, I think that Trump just thinks that Southern whites are all racist and is trying to cater to them.
He correctly assumes that most whites in every state are very racist. Whether they say it or not most white people want the most advantageous situation possible. They don't want to compete with other ethnic groups on a level playing field. They want the easiest win possible. It might seem like people give a **** but they don't.

Frownland 08-15-2017 07:43 PM

Easy easy you'll give yourself away like that.

Chula Vista 08-15-2017 07:49 PM

"I watched the news, I watched it, I watched it much more closely that you people did....." - The Donald.

Mitt Romney just released a statement that punched Trump right in the face.

OccultHawk 08-15-2017 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1864863)
Easy easy you'll give yourself away like that.

Cue the goth jokes but we're all monsters.

That press conference was really nutty.

I do want America to dismantle and eradicate its hero worship of the "founding fathers"

Trump mentions Jefferson and Washington. I do not think either of them should be honored as great Americans. Washington was horribly cruel. Look at how he treated the troops at Valley Forge.

Like Washington, Jefferson owned slaves. Jefferson was also a rapist and supported the genocide against Native Americans even calling them "merciless Indian savages" in the Declaration of Independence.

First we have to bring out the truth and destroy the cult of love around the horrible genocidal maniac, Andrew Jackson, then next is Jefferson and Washington.

Zhanteimi 08-15-2017 08:31 PM

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Anteater 08-15-2017 10:28 PM

Trump made a good point about the founding fathers, at least in regards to the far left's repeated attempts to rewrite history for the past few administrations. None of them were perfect people (and shouldn't be revered). Doesn't mean people should be wrecking Jefferson statues just because Antifa despise him for owning slaves.

But then he went off on a tangent about race relations and jobs or something and everything went off the rails at that point. Calling out both sides for their respective shortcomings was kind of refreshing, but it was a missed opportunity in most respects.

Frownland 08-15-2017 10:31 PM

You're right that we shouldn't be taking down statues because Antifa doesn't like them, we should be taking them down because idolatry is a sin.

riseagainstrocks 08-16-2017 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 1864851)

My sister sent this to me yesterday. Couldn't get past the 8 minute mark. Absolutely sinister.

Put the following on my Facebook, one of the very few times I dabble in political comments on the platform:

I am not a fan of violence. Violent acts surrender the moral high ground in any debate. Aggression is a sign of the weakness of one's political argument and incites both public sympathy for one's opponent and public opprobrium for one's own cause. Violence during protest marches and demonstrations serves no positive purpose.

Of course, the lone exception to this IS WHEN YOU'RE FIGHTING ****ING NAZIS. Karl Popper, Austrian philosopher and all-around badass, wrote about the paradox of tolerance. His summation is better than any I could write. "The paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them."

Nazism, and to a lesser extent, fascism, is the ultimate expression of intolerance. Nazis, including many at the Charlottesville rally on Saturday advocate for genocide, slavery, segregation, rescinding civil rights legislation, rescinding the 19th amendment, and a litany of other morally outrageous positions. The canard that this "protest march" was to preserve Virginian history must be outed for the fallacious platform of sinister sophistry that it is. These people long for a time when they were the law and the law was them. Our society cannot tolerate such toxic discourse.

I'm always happy to chat about Affirmative Action, biological and cultural sex/gender distinctions, the efficacy of various forms of government, and a host of other compelling and divisive issues. I will brook no discussion on the moral merits of slavery or the Holocaust. **** Nazis. **** Nazi sympathizers.

riseagainstrocks 08-16-2017 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1864947)
Trump made a good point about the founding fathers, at least in regards to the far left's repeated attempts to rewrite history for the past few administrations. None of them were perfect people (and shouldn't be revered). Doesn't mean people should be wrecking Jefferson statues just because Antifa despise him for owning slaves.

I'm certainly game to dive into the topic but a huge reason that the ire is not target a the Founding Fathers is that slavery was a fully legal institution during their time. Doesn't remove the stain on their legacy, but it's ahistorical to hold past figures to the same moral standards we have today.

The leaders of the Confederacy on the other hand, waged war against their lawfully elected representatives, murdered their fellow Americans in a war of choice, and actively battled to preserve human bondage.

Jefferson, Washington, et. al. were complex men with flaws, but they're on the right side of history, with regard to civic values. Davis, Lee, et. al. are not only on the wrong side of history, but they fought to preserve a system that the majority of the country had determined was a moral abomination.

That's the key difference between target Confederate slaveholders and Revolutionary-era slaveholders and the left's greater disdain for the former.

I think 20-30 years from now we'll have monument 'asterisks' making all parts of their history, and good and bad, upfront.

Frownland 08-16-2017 11:05 AM

Political violence will always make you a piece of ****, no matter how well meaning your intentions are. Not only is it irrational, but it is wholly counterintuitive because it aids the propaganda of the other side to serve their victim narrative. If not that, you make your side look bad with that ****. That being said, I do agree that it needs to be stopped and not enough is being done to curb it.

Also (admittedly getting a little conspiratorial here), if protests continue to become breeding grounds for violence, I think the government is going to put a hamper on out right to protest. Is violence against POS Nazis mad satisfying? **** ja it is. Does it help the situation? I highly doubt it.

Chula Vista 08-16-2017 12:27 PM

The 8th CEO quits one of Trumps councels this morning. Trumps response? He disbands the councels.

Boy finds out his girlfriend is about to break up with him so he quickly calls her and breaks up with her first. :rofl:

djchameleon 08-16-2017 12:32 PM

At first he was talking all that trash about them being replaceable now all of a sudden he just dismantles it.

rostasi 08-16-2017 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks (Post 1865055)
My sister sent this to me yesterday. Couldn't get past the 8 minute mark. Absolutely sinister.

Yes, mind-bending video that can be difficult to get thru. It's hard for me to tell someone to stay with it,
but the interview at the very end is soooooo fucked up. I tell people that I don't need stuff from
Steven King, Jonathan Maberry, Ramsey Campbell, etc.; all I need is my quarterly
Intelligence Report to read the horrific...and now we have a part of it in video form.

Treacherous cocksplurt fudge-stained douchewaffles with four-cheese medley for brains:

http://tinyimg.io/i/SYqBa84.jpg


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