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grindy 03-04-2020 09:13 AM

The democrat elites probably prefer Trump to Sanders, their fortunes are safer that way.

YorkeDaddy 03-04-2020 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 2107108)
The democrat elites probably prefer Trump to Sanders, their fortunes are safer that way.

Makes a lot of sense actually. Ugh

jwb 03-04-2020 09:36 AM

If Biden gets the nom I'll probably root for Trump again

WWWP 03-04-2020 09:44 AM

We're getting four more years no matter what any civvie wants

YorkeDaddy 03-04-2020 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2107116)
We're getting four more years no matter what any civvie wants

What’s spooky is the prospect of him becoming even more unhinged than he already is. Like once he secures the second term there will be nothing holding him back from the fullblown crazy

jwb 03-04-2020 10:46 AM

At least that will be interesting to watch

The Batlord 03-04-2020 10:48 AM

I wonder how long till he starts making fun of Iran's epidemic?

jwb 03-04-2020 10:56 AM

I wonder how far into the debate before he comments on Biden's denchers.

debaserr 03-04-2020 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 2107119)
What’s spooky is the prospect of him becoming even more unhinged than he already is. Like once he secures the second term there will be nothing holding him back from the fullblown crazy

More like the complete collapse of any checks and balances. Trump gets all the hype but his backers and allies are destroying the constitution.

YorkeDaddy 03-04-2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by debaserr (Post 2107127)
More like the complete collapse of any checks and balances. Trump gets all the hype but his backers and allies are destroying the constitution.

Sure but at the end of the day he’s the commander of the most obnoxiously massive military in the world. All it would take is for him to wake up grumpy one morning for us to suddenly be in a nuclear war or some ****

jwb 03-04-2020 11:54 AM



Bad news, but not surprising. If Warren doesn't drop out then she's probably hoping for some sort of Biden cabinet position.

OccultHawk 03-04-2020 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 2107108)
The democrat elites probably prefer Trump to Sanders, their fortunes are safer that way.

Church

Psy-Fi 03-04-2020 01:06 PM

Mike Bloomberg wins American Samoa — after spending $500 million on ads

WWWP 03-04-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 2107134)
All it would take is for him to wake up grumpy one morning for us to suddenly be in a nuclear war or some ****

Ok wait nevermind you dont remind me of a middle aged suburban white man, you remind me of a middle aged suburban white mom

The Batlord 03-04-2020 01:56 PM

"Or some ****" is a pretty white guy thing to say.

WWWP 03-04-2020 01:58 PM

But the blindly repeated platitudes are very much a mommy thing

YorkeDaddy 03-04-2020 02:07 PM

Yes I am often told that I have a very motherly quality to me thank you

jwb 03-04-2020 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2107158)
But the blindly repeated platitudes are very much a mommy thing

and the hysterical paranoia. Nuclear war and razor blades in Halloween candy or some ****.

The Batlord 03-04-2020 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2107166)
and the hysterical paranoia. Nuclear war and razor blades in Halloween candy or some ****.

Have you heard white rappers? They're on some Alex Jones ****.

jwb 03-04-2020 02:31 PM

I was wondering why Eminem accused the parkland victims of being crisis actors on his latest album.

The Batlord 03-04-2020 02:34 PM

I'm thinking more in terms of the kind of guys who'd be in Jedi Mind Tricks or Army of the Pharaohs.

YorkeDaddy 03-04-2020 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2107166)
and the hysterical paranoia. Nuclear war and razor blades in Halloween candy or some ****.

I dunno about that 2nd point but there’s nothing hysterical about being afraid of Trump doing something catastrophic on a global level

jwb 03-04-2020 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2107173)
I'm thinking more in terms of the kind of guys who'd be in Jedi Mind Tricks or Army of the Pharaohs.

how about immortal technique?

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 2107175)
I dunno about that 2nd point but there’s nothing hysterical about being afraid of Trump doing something catastrophic on a global level

if you phrase it vaguely enough then sure

The Batlord 03-04-2020 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2107179)
how about immortal technique

Probably but I haven't listened to him in years tbh.

jwb 03-04-2020 03:52 PM

Imagine Loose Change but as a rap song.

Anteater 03-04-2020 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2107162)
you can't help but rush to drop the dumbest possible take in any conversation

Sanders isn't going to give you free college and destroy the military industrial complex. Sorry.

WWWP 03-04-2020 04:02 PM

I'm just glad to see Beto's spanish has improved

OccultHawk 03-04-2020 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2107201)
I'm really excited to see what happens if Bernie gets a slim plurality and they go to rob him at the convention

my ass will fly there, I mean it would be the most important moment of US politics in my lifetime

but you know, we probably don't even get that...eventually someone like Sanders is going to win, but it could easily be over a decade if this isn't the moment

The best would be if trump won’t leave office and to be part of the mob that drags him down the street and kills him

jwb 03-05-2020 08:06 AM

I'm also hoping he refuses to leave peacefully
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2107201)
eventually someone like Sanders is going to win, but it could easily be over a decade if this isn't the moment

I honestly have no idea who it would be if it's not Sanders. Not anytime soon anyway.

Anteater 03-05-2020 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2107230)
because that's basically it

all this talk and it's just that old people are old

ofc the internet is oversampling the young so it's easy to say "where are the Biden voters?"

Clearly the dumbest take.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2107204)
The best would be if trump won’t leave office and to be part of the mob that drags him down the street and kills him

If Trump can dodge the draft, he can dodge a mob. :love:

Anteater 03-05-2020 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2107234)
look at the numbers

the margin Bernie wins the youth vote by is 95% in some places

Yeah but that doesn't explain why he won California over Biden or some of these other states. If youth turnout is uniformly low, then that means he's being propelled primarily by other demographics.

WWWP 03-05-2020 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2107241)
California is California

it's the most liberal state in the country

Hot take

jwb 03-05-2020 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2107234)
look at the numbers

the margin Bernie wins the youth vote by is 95% in some places

anecdotally I have not talked to a single Biden supporter...because everyone I know is under 35

Yeah , though this is assuming their politics never change throughout their lifetime

I do think the potential for a Bernie type candidate to win is increasing over time... But as of now I just am not aware of who that could be.

jwb 03-05-2020 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2107251)
I won't be voting for Biden(if he's the nominee) because he's not about to win Texas anyway

when I voted for Hillary I was in a swing state and felt good about electing (lol) the first female president even though she wasn't my first choice

I think this is considered a swing state but my rationalization for skipping it is always that one vote doesn't matter and also if Biden is in I don't really want him to win. Same with Hillary. Will probably lie and tell my family I voted though.

jwb 03-05-2020 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2107255)
Florida was a swing state but idk if it still is really

I think it's gone, seems like Democrats will win Texas again before they win Florida

but who the **** knows

what do you figure has changed?

NC it's technically a swing state too but I'm pretty confident Trump will win pretty much the entire South.

jwb 03-05-2020 11:40 AM

I don't think so, with regard to Florida. It's been a swing state for as long as I remember. It was never solidly blue. And in terms of state government it's always been red from what I recall.

1) I don't believe that snow birds moving down there is any sort of new thing or that it's changed much in recent years. If anything it slowed down due to rising real estate prices and the housing crash.

2) If you look at the map for the results, Trump lost in South Florida by a significant margin. He lost the county he has his resort in, Palm Beach. He lost in Orlando and Tampa areas. He won the state by a little less than 1%, which is around what Obama won by in 2012. It's likely that Hillary could've won Florida if she was an even slightly better candidate.

jwb 03-05-2020 11:54 AM

Also according to Google Trump won Texas by 9%. I don't see Bernie changing that.

And Bernie would probably do worse in Florida than a moderate would by scaring the old people and alienating the Cuban and Venezuelan refugees who have a visceral reaction to the word socialism.

jwb 03-05-2020 01:01 PM

Public Enemy fires Flavor Flav after dispute over Bernie Sanders rally

lol

jwb 03-05-2020 02:32 PM

I think I heard Michigan's gov just endorsed Biden

Warren needs to endorse Bernie and Bernie needs to take off the kids gloves with Biden and stop preambling every meek attack on Biden with "Joe's a good friend of mine." No he's not. Grow a pair ffs.

OccultHawk 03-05-2020 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2107298)
very true

but would it even help

only hope is all of the Warren support goes to Bernie which I find p unlikely

It’s over

It’s America


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