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Lucem Ferre 02-07-2019 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2041782)
lol wut

hip hop was a thing before Joy Division

the first influential artists to be called hip hop and rap followed after the NYC blackout where most of those artists looted parts of their equipment

1977
Did I say that hip hop was invented when Afrika Bambaataa started playing college clubs? I don't remember saying that.

Lucem Ferre 02-07-2019 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2041801)
I'm confused as to what you're saying

what I'm saying is OG American punks attended the first hip hop clubs
Where the hell are you getting this information from?

Lucem Ferre 02-07-2019 01:22 PM
I got it wrong, though, it wasn't Afrika Bambaataa it was Grandmaster Flash.

OccultHawk 02-07-2019 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2041807)
I got it wrong, though, it wasn't Afrika Bambaataa it was Grandmaster Flash.
It’s more effective to double down on your mistakes than to come clean. I think it was DJ Kool Herc anyway.

OccultHawk 02-07-2019 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2041812)
CBGB musicians have talked about

and the hip hop scene was right down the street, punks were usually the only white people brave enough for it

it's where Blondie's Rapture came from and the myth that it was the first rap song which I think Chula believed
It is hard to predate officially on wax.

Lucem Ferre 02-07-2019 01:31 PM
No. It was Grandmaster Flash was looking to expand hip hop's reach but the only clubs that would book a hip hop act outside of their hoods were punk clubs because they'd take anything that's unique. That was around the late 70s. Blondie was allegedly at one of the first shows out there. That's where that corny collaboration song came from.

Frownland 02-07-2019 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2041805)
Where the hell are you getting this information from?
Led Zeppelin invented punk!

OccultHawk 02-07-2019 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2041819)
No. It was Grandmaster Flash was looking to expand hip hop's reach but the only clubs that would book a hip hop act outside of their hoods were punk clubs because they'd take anything that's unique. That was around the late 70s. Blondie was allegedly at one of the first shows out there. That's where that corny collaboration song came from.
I’m sick of this obsession with accuracy

OccultHawk 02-07-2019 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2041820)
Led Zeppelin invented punk!
The amps were set to 11 on Communication Breakdown.

Lucem Ferre 02-07-2019 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2041822)
I’m sick of this obsession with accuracy
It's important towards pointing out that elph is full of ****.


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