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Raime 04-22-2020 03:09 PM

I burn garbage in my room on cold days, and leave the chest freezer open on hot days.

The Batlord 04-22-2020 04:14 PM

I eat burgers to keep cows from farting.

The Batlord 04-22-2020 04:40 PM

That's what socks are for anyway.

OccultHawk 04-22-2020 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2114092)
That's what dogs are for anyway.

Ftfy

The Batlord 04-22-2020 04:59 PM

Why masturbate if you have a dog?

OccultHawk 04-22-2020 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2114103)
Why masturbate if you have a dog?

To relieve sexual tension.

Marie Monday 04-22-2020 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MarieMarie (Post 2114086)
Ew can we go back to a nice and wholesome Fiona Apple discussion please

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The Batlord 04-22-2020 05:12 PM

As long as it's your dog consent is basically guaranteed.

OccultHawk 04-22-2020 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2114111)
As long as it's your dog consent is basically guaranteed.

I don’t think humans should penetrate dogs sexually.

The Batlord 04-22-2020 05:21 PM

Bro your dog wants it.

Frownland 04-22-2020 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 2114056)
Can you say a bit more about this? I'm not sure what you mean.

Necessities like food, housing, healthcare, and power can and does outpace what would benefit consumers. I don't trust the market to correct itself when it comes to things with a built-in clientele.

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Are you saying that the manufacturing emissions net-net might out pace oil? If so, I'd be shocked to see it but I'll dig in.
It wouldn't outpace it, but revising our power infrastructure to use solar instead of coal, gas, etc. would still generate problematic amounts of emissions.

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Nuclear has two or three major issues for the US (given that we're the 2nd biggest emitter).

1. Because we stopped making plants after 3-mile island, the US currently lacks the experience and knowledge to build them well. Easily fixed but a hurdle none-the-less

2. The upfront overhead capx costs are insane. You'd need to make a crazy push to get that passed, funded, and to provide MW at a cost comparable to renewables. Maybe this would work in deregulated markets, but admittedly I'm not an expert on this.
Agreed. It'd be difficult, but it'd be worth it.

TheBig3 04-23-2020 09:06 AM

re: the energy conversation. This is a pretty decent analysis of American energy. It seems like a general historical overview.

https://www.economist.com/podcasts/2...ecksandbalance

DwnWthVwls 04-27-2020 02:17 PM

Why?

WWWP 04-27-2020 02:23 PM

Apathy

The Batlord 04-27-2020 02:28 PM

It's not like they're going to diddle him.

TheBig3 04-28-2020 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 2114860)

I'm not on team trump, but if he wins I won't be sad

I won't try to guess your motivation behind these statements, but from over here it feels like the most callous calculation I could hear in 2020.


Only in the fiction where Obama "wasn't much different" than Trump can you excuse what's gone on in the past almost 4 years. I'm not going to rehash old arguments, but there's a level of detachment you need to have to not understand the gutting of American society that's going on here.

In my view, you can only believe Obama, Biden, Clinton, and Trump are the same when you stay on the surface and don't get into the details.

TheBig3 04-28-2020 05:50 PM

Michael Moore produced a film about climate change that’s a gift to Big Oil


OccultHawk 04-28-2020 06:04 PM

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Yet, the film Moore backed concludes that population control, not clean energy, is the answer. This is a highly questionable solution, which has more in common with anti-immigration hate groups than the progressive movement.
lol

Sorry that the truth doesn’t fit their political outline. Fewer people is the ONLY way. It’s some incredible **** that anyone who has ever been outside doesn’t understand this.

Frownland 04-28-2020 06:06 PM

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My only hope is that this film will be buried, and few will watch it or remember it
This reminds me of the people who complain about how famous the Kardashians are without realizing that they're the only ones who care enough about the family to sustain their fame.

I doubt the film will have much impact, Moore isn't relevant anymore and I'm pretty sure he's widely recognized to be more concerned with an entertaining product than accuracy.

OccultHawk 04-28-2020 06:11 PM

What film has he made that wasn’t totally dead on?

Frownland 04-28-2020 06:12 PM

Michael Moore filmography

It's a symptom of the format more than Moore himself though. Dude's an entertainer first and foremost.

OccultHawk 04-28-2020 06:17 PM

I’ve only seen 4 of them but they were all great.

TheBig3 04-28-2020 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2115066)
I haven't seen the film, but it is interesting that Moore would take this position

maybe the first time a film of his isn't "An everyman recites Chomsky but dumber" (I say that as a fan, Moore contributed to getting me into politics)

Given the set-up, I had to post my favorite Michael Moore take-down. [won't let me pick the starting point so jump to 4:42]


TheBig3 04-28-2020 06:49 PM

Elf, my dear man. When you take whacks at someone, they're going to compare you to him. Make sure you're going to have that fight on your home court.

As for a doc. maker needing to have an opinion. Disagree. I think it's a presentation of facts.

OccultHawk 04-28-2020 06:54 PM

Just because Chomsky opposed NATO bombing doesn’t mean he supported Slobodan Milošević.

Frownland 04-28-2020 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 2115084)
As for a doc. maker needing to have an opinion. Disagree. I think it's a presentation of facts.

That's the ideal for sure. The issue is that documentaries are movies or series, so people approach them with a preconception that they're going to be watching something entertaining and cinematic. The cinematic playbook is built around evoking emotions, which leads to many documentaries spending a lot of time clipping their facts to make them more snippy and introducing suspense/conflict/etc. in the editing room to evoke the intended response that the unedited interviews and other material just doesn't muster. Audiences reward this, so these are the documentaries that studios will take a chance on funding. Emotions are great for persuasion, so activists use that cinematic pathos as a tool to spread awareness for their message, often successfully when it reaches the intended audience despite how accurate the facts presented are. Combine those two and you have a field so dominated by documentarians looking to enforce their opinion that it seems like the rule. Seems like series can get away with being a little (emphasis on little) more fact-based since they only need to hold the audience's attention for an episodic amount of time.

I prefer meta-analyses.

OccultHawk 04-28-2020 07:29 PM

Every word spoken or written comes with an agenda. There’s no such thing as just putting out the facts.

DwnWthVwls 04-28-2020 07:35 PM

Sometimes you say weird things.

Frownland 04-28-2020 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2115098)
Every word spoken or written comes with an agenda. There’s no such thing as just putting out the facts.

Nah.

TheBig3 04-28-2020 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2115098)
Every word spoken or written comes with an agenda. There’s no such thing as just putting out the facts.

It's just like...what even is reality?

Anteater 05-02-2020 08:23 AM

Brotha knows what's up.

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net...d3&oe=5ED1E24E

WWWP 05-02-2020 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2115573)
Brotha knows what's up.

https://media.giphy.com/media/7zSzFB...c19q/giphy.gif

Exo 05-02-2020 12:06 PM

Trump supporters don't give a sh*t about the rights of African Americans but when they align to their ideals all of a sudden it's a validation. Pffft.

Anteater 05-02-2020 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 2115605)
Trump supporters don't give a sh*t about the rights of African Americans but when they align to their ideals all of a sudden it's a validation. Pffft.

Maybe that guy feels as though the Democratic Party takes his vote for granted. He has to choose between an old man who wants to lower his taxes versus an old man who wants to raise his taxes. They both have dementia. Who do you think he's gonna pick without telling his buddies come November?

Exo 05-02-2020 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2115611)
Maybe that guy feels as though the Democratic Party takes his vote for granted.

Maybe he also kidnaps children and uses them to feed him baby bird sandwiches.

You know, as long as we're making up narratives.

Anteater 05-02-2020 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 2115612)
You know, as long as we're making up narratives.

Ironic.

Exo 05-02-2020 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2115613)
Ironic.

What'd I make up? Trump called Kaepernick a "son of a bitch" for kneeling during the anthem and his supporters wielded signs and protested the NFL for months. Did we forget that happened?

Frownland 05-02-2020 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 2115612)
Maybe he also kidnaps children and uses them to feed him baby bird sandwiches.

You know, as long as we're making up narratives.

Anteater is obviously just being a blind partisan with his "budwudabowt" brilliance per usual, but the sentiment that the DNC doesn't care about African Americans despite what it says in the brochure is definitely a real sentiment that some African Americans hold.

Exo 05-02-2020 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2115617)
Anteater is obviously just being a blind partisan per usual, but the sentiment that the DNC doesn't care about African Americans despite what it says in the brochure is definitely a real sentiment that some African Americans hold.

I think Ant thinks I'm a democrat or something. Those old f*cks suck too. I'm pretty much anti-old f*ck.

Anteater 05-02-2020 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 2115614)
What'd I make up? Trump called Kaepernick a "son of a bitch" for kneeling during the anthem and his supporters wielded signs and protested the NFL for months. Did we forget that happened?

Let's see what someone else has to say about that. :love:



And as far as the actual record goes....

First Step Act. Economic Opportunity Zones. Two major things that seemingly benefit African-Americans exclusively. All supported and passed by him. Do you disagree that those two things also occurred?


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