Political Discussions for "Adults"

~~jwb~~ · 07-31-2019, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

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you would be very lucky to make that either, on your own

Real talk you decide to try to sell fish on the side how much money do you think you can take in a night?

OccultHawk · 07-31-2019, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

you would be very lucky to make that either, on your own

Real talk you decide to try to sell fish on the side how much money do you think you can take in a night?

If I worked in organized tandem with all the other kitchen staff in there considering how talented those people are: $500 a day.

Lucem Ferre · 07-31-2019, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

you would be very lucky to make that either, on your own

Real talk you decide to try to sell fish on the side how much money do you think you can take in a night?

Sounds like some uncle tom ****.

~~jwb~~ · 07-31-2019, 01:36 PM

It takes more than just laborers. You need a viable business to make that possible. If you can pull that off, then fantastic. Lemme know when you're hiring.

~~jwb~~ · 07-31-2019, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Sounds like some uncle tom ****.

It's just reality. Nice misuse of a racial slur though, Utah.

~~jwb~~ · 07-31-2019, 01:43 PM

My dad actually was a laborer who ran his own business doing pool decks and **** and made good money doing it. I'm not saying it's never possible but the more unskilled/replaceable the labor, the less viable it becomes.

He also spent his life ducking the IRS and any other business related laws.

Lucem Ferre · 07-31-2019, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

It's just reality. Nice misuse of a racial slur though, Utah.

Perfect use of it. Kiss up to the people that exploit you by insinuating they are more valuable than the laborer. Which is literally retarded. You have no business with no product and no product with out laborers to produce it. Perhaps you completely misread his point that never said that marketing and management is unimportant, just that laborers should be treated just as important as anybody else in the company.

~~jwb~~ · 07-31-2019, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Perfect use of it. Kiss up to the people that exploit you by insinuating they are more valuable than the laborer. Which is literally retarded. You have no business with no product and no product with out laborers to produce it. Perhaps you completely misread his point that never said that marketing and management is unimportant, just that laborers should be treated just as important as anybody else in the company.

it's not a perfect use of it cause I'm not black and you're from Utah
Come visit me in Greensboro and use that term out loud and see what happens to you

They're not as valuable cause they're more replaceable. That's just the reality of the matter.

~~jwb~~ · 07-31-2019, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

simply put, there is no value generated if there is no labor, there is no surplus

again, ain't no fish getting served if nobody cuts them

what you're describing by saying workers are replaceable is a result of a power imbalance

it has no bearing on the value of the work itself, which is inherently valuable proportional to the surplus

You're just ignoring my point. There will always be someone there to cut them. The second there isn't, they will automate.

The workers are less powerful precisely because they're more replaceable, not vice versa.

And the value of their work is once again based on the market and what people will pay for the product they produce.

Lucem Ferre · 07-31-2019, 01:52 PM

In any job I've had I've seen management, marketing and all the other **** shift around just as much as laborers.

Like ****, every year they produce Punkn at Uinta and every year we ended up dumping every keg because nobody buys it. Doesn't take a genius to know that we probably shouldn't keep making a ****ty beer that doesn't sell yet some how you think that person is worth more than the laborers that also know. These people are not as competent as you think.

07-31-2019, 01:36 PM	#2154 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	It takes more than just laborers. You need a viable business to make that possible. If you can pull that off, then fantastic. Lemme know when you're hiring.

07-31-2019, 01:43 PM	#2156 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	My dad actually was a laborer who ran his own business doing pool decks and **** and made good money doing it. I'm not saying it's never possible but the more unskilled/replaceable the labor, the less viable it becomes. He also spent his life ducking the IRS and any other business related laws.