Yeah, basically. Especially with hard labor because doing hard labor for 8 hours straight is going to destroy your body and you will never ever be compensated for that. They will find what ever loop hole they can to not pay expensive medical bills and unfortunately wear and tear on the body is not included in on the job injuries. It's considered part of the worker's responsibility to follow safety codes and make sure they don't over work themselves to destroy themselves but hey there is this deadline you HAVE to meet tonight or we will be upset.

The issues you see people raise with China isn't nationalist propaganda. They aren't just stealing U.S. IP - they do it to European companies as well. And despite all the money they rake in from theft (and they are currency manipulators as well), they just blow it all on gigantic, useless real estate projects somewhere yonder of the Gobi Desert that nobody will ever live in. They make the U.S. government look downright competent in comparison.

Don't forget that Xi has literally become President For Life over there as well, which means future administrations are going to have to deal with China's current trajectory even if Trump can't "win" his trade war.

Los Angeles was just a desert once too.

I wouldn't call their dirty tactics a threat to the states, just saying that they're present. I'm with elph that the biggest threat to the US comes from within.

That's some nice whataboutism, Donny.

Sure, but it'd be more fair to pin the blame on both than say that it's okay because it's popular.

I do understand actually, that's a very poetic way of putting it. But I have a stance towards the **** the universe throws at me so that I lean in when it starts raining **** on me rather than retreat.

I test myself, like a constant game. IDGAF if they make a little more or a little less in the process. I have to play the game to get anything from the experience. I will squeeze blood from the stone.

I think it's probably also relevant that we've had very different experience working. You have had pretty much service jobs exclusively. I've had a wider variety of jobs with different challenges. It makes things a bit more interesting when you mix it up.

But ultimately I'm under no delusion that any given **** job will turn into a career. I'm paying off old debts and getting myself legal. It's a means to an end. In the meantime I use whatever experience it offers me as best I can. What else is there to do?

I used to just steal from the company and milk the clock as much as I could. I learned nothing in the process except how to cut corners.Which in essence leads to learning how to lie and commit crimes. Which I then hone a different kind of skill set in and lean on that to make up for my lack of income.

More self enabling. More torque in the downward spiral. I'm done with that ****. Do you though.

Honestly I think this is all so degrading and miserable that I don't see any reason to lean in. I see people dealing with **** and making do in their own way and almost universally I find their perspectives to be in some way repellent and naive no matter how likable that person might be or how much sense this or that idea might seem to make in isolation. I'm just waiting this life thing out at this point.

Building your developing economy on dirty practices just leads to the continuation of those exploitative practices once they become the more economically powerful country.

Its a job worth doing because it provides you with an income and because youre serving the public. The quality of your service has an impact on the society youre a part of. Grow up and be less selfish.

He works at a Burger King. That's hardly an income and it's impact on a society that's already expecting poor service is minimal unless he's contaminating the food.

Edit: Actually, you can argue that him providing poor service (which nobody says he does just that he doesn't think it's worth the effort to take pride in an unfulfilling job) is curving people from eating at an industry that is causing a health crisis as well as endangering the environment through the over consumption of meat. ****ty service from a shady fast food corporation may influence his local community to embrace more healthy options as well as explore vegan alternatives to combat the destructive beef farming industries. Or perhaps people going to a fast food joint are expecting trashy food and trashy service in the first place so the role a worker takes there is extremely vapid and it's ridiculous to pretend other wise.

Yeah that's right assign no value to the nature of the work you're doing beyond its ability to pay your bills. That's the mentally healthy alternative. And serving the public? I make ****ty food for people who don't care and probably disproportionately contribute to the obesity epidemic. What kind of simple-minded **** are you trying to peddle? You're like a robot trying to teach me Leave It to Beaver lessons you don't even understand.

that's sad.

Perhaps tell me how great you're doing and feeling once you get the smell of rehab clinic off you.

I didn't say I'm doing great. I'm doing better. Dunno why you want to crush any semblance of hope I might have. Misery loves company I guess.

That's just a whole lot of patting yourself on the back and lack of humility for someone who's still a cluster****.

I'm confident in the statement that I'm doing better(than I was say a year or two ago). Beyond that not sure what I said that was so arrogant.

My simple minded mentality is better than your woe is me mentality because it allows me to better myself. You might be a goofball but youre not unitelligent, its a shame youve positioned yourself in such a way that you cant find a job you find worthy.

I bet that Batman could get a decent YouTube following that could lead to monetization. Call it Blackout Drunk Chuck.

Well as much as I find so many people's optimism to be unfathomable and infuriating I wouldn't wish being me on anyone so have at it.

The problem you think you are seeing some sort of evils or downside that we're missing

Where as in reality we're just choosing not to give up as quickly as you.

It's not my fault I don't value the dumb **** you value.

Dumb **** like maybe hoping for a better life

Fact is you are throwing in the towel

I dont really value my job or career. Id rather not work and waste my life playing video games, but I do value my work ethic and taking the work i do seriously because I feel that everyone should do their best to contribute to the society they are a part of and benefit from. There is no shame in being a hard working grocery packer and having positive interactions with people.

A better life as what? I don't like people, I don't want kids, I don't want to get married, buying a house means I have to maintain it, I don't care if my neighbors think I have a nice car, I'm too neurotic and cynical to ever feel secure in anything. I mean **** all of that better life ****.

Why exactly don't you kill yourself?

Too much of a narcissist who's scared of oblivion.

A narcissist meaning you value something in yourself at least? You really gonna tell me there's no way you could ever ever possibly have a better life than you do?

I value my continued existence as opposed to being nothing which is pretty baseline and I can't be sure that isn't just biological imperative working against me. And sure I could rise to some better level of existence but where's the motivation? Get an apartment and live out the rest of my life much as I do already cause I don't really aspire to anything but listening to more music and maybe taking some gnarly walks in nature or something?

You can get a higher paying job that you hate less so that you can buy more beer and comics.

You've never had your own place IIRC so you shouldn't be so quick to diss it. Even without kids/etc which I also don't want there are just tons of people living better lives than you and me as non married non fathers right now.

It's sad to say but the old cliche that money doesn't buy happiness is only half correct. You can be unhappy with money but not having enough directly causes unhappiness.

Yeah but it is apparently not a motivating factor to me and never has been.

I think you're scared of failure/rejection

Well duh, smart guy.

I pretty much feel the same about all those things(minus the neuroticism), thats why im buying a 1 bedroom condo and my living room will be a gaming center/library. You can have a great existence as a loner.

what do y'all think about anarchism?

I support you even if I don't have much faith in humans to implement it. Damn sight better than this capitalism ****.

:rolleyes:

He donts offers free money

Get ****ed bootyjudge

My personality kind of precludes random hookups and I never meet anyone, man or woman, who I click with on any meaningful level so no I am not motivated by tail as it would be pointless. I literally can not remember the time I met a woman who I thought would be wooed by my charms without me having to turn on some cringey "game" **** and pretend to be an entirely different person.

You know who loves you from the heart to the shaft bat?

Occult