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OccultHawk 08-25-2019 02:53 AM

Actually, that is how lame goths are

The Batlord 08-25-2019 04:01 PM

What is your position on cyber goths?

Frownland 08-25-2019 04:01 PM

I bet Yang isn't even down to sack Rome, what a ****ing poseur.

jwb 08-25-2019 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2074642)
I read this post from a guy who said he wanted to "come out" as goth to his parents and I thought that was pretty lame

it's not a group like lgbt

it's just an alternative Dance Club scene

I read this post from some retired vet saying he wished his goth son would just hurry up and come out as gay already.

OccultHawk 08-25-2019 04:29 PM

On Fareed GPS today two guests made a great case for doing away with time zones and putting the entire planet Greenwich Mean Time

It would make international travel and communication far easier

Airline pilots already do it.

Anteater 08-25-2019 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2074496)
"Capitalism may want to rank you, but you are an individual"

he hardcore dunks on public education here OH


He's right but I'd argue that bad parenting and a lack of mentorship outside of education are also massive factors.

There are certain career paths you can dive into where arguments about meritocracy do apply. You want to work on cars for a living, but then you flunk out of trade school because you just don't do due diligence, decide to smoke weed instead of showing up to learn, etc. etc. Individual choice does play into outcome in society at some level.

Good video.

jwb 08-25-2019 04:52 PM

Virtually every field is competitive based on merit to some degree

The reason that it's not so simple that people are neatly organized in a heirarchy based on merit is that we all have different hang ups and different starting circumstances.

OccultHawk 08-25-2019 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2074657)
He's right but I'd argue that bad parenting and a lack of mentorship outside of education are also massive factors.

There are certain career paths you can dive into where arguments about meritocracy do apply. You want to work on cars for a living, but then you flunk out of trade school because you just don't do due diligence, decide to smoke weed instead of showing up to learn, etc. etc. Individual choice does play into outcome in society at some level.

Good video.

I like being MB allies with you but it doesn’t seem like you actually understood what he was saying.

The Batlord 08-25-2019 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2074662)
Virtually every field is competitive based on merit to some degree

The reason that it's not so simple that people are neatly organized in a heirarchy based on merit is that we all have different hang ups and different starting circumstances.

"To some degree" is doing a lot of legwork in that post.

Anteater 08-25-2019 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2074663)
I like being MB allies with you but it doesn’t seem like you actually understood what he was saying.

I did understand it. He blatantly ignores the role of the family and other factors and tries to use public education as the sole point of argument. I just don't agree with his overall assessment as someone who jumped around multiple career paths before I got into technology.

The point that I do agree with him on is that public education needs to be re-tooled because a curriculum isn't geared around giving kids the right "starting point" (mentally or otherwise) to look at society and figure out how to embrace their passions effectively. Everything ultimately revolves around useless measuring sticks like the SAT instead of something more practical.

The Batlord 08-25-2019 05:21 PM

What tools.

The Batlord 08-25-2019 05:31 PM

No, not steampunk, cyber goth.


OccultHawk 08-25-2019 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2074688)
that wasn't his point actually

school is only one way in which we try to rank people

Yeah. I felt like ant’s comment was like I’m watching a football game and complaining that the QB can’t hit a fast ball.

Anteater 08-25-2019 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2074686)
I don't really know what that is

but what makes traditional goth good is its direct connection to punk

other genres that use the aesthetic are almost always complete cringe

Are you telling me Rob Zombie are Marilyn Manson aren't punk?

OccultHawk 08-25-2019 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2074723)
Are you telling me Rob Zombie are Marilyn Manson aren't punk?

I’ll tell you that.

jwb 08-25-2019 08:47 PM

Marilyn Manson took some ribs out so he could suck his own dick. That's the very definition of punk.

Lucem Ferre 08-27-2019 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2074686)
I don't really know what that is

but what makes traditional goth good is its direct connection to punk

other genres that use the aesthetic are almost always complete cringe

I could definitely see the cyber goths listening to Boy Harsher on a dark wave night.

Cyber goths listen to aggrotech and really gimmicky electronic goth acts that sing about cyber punk nerdom.

You'd probably hate majority of their music. It's much more angry and formulaic than what it derives from and it's very very shallow and juvenile. Definitely lacks what you like from the culture and represents the cliches that you hate.



But it's sometimes really funny how goofy they can be.



LOL Satanic Nazi priests throwing a cocaine orgy.

OccultHawk 08-27-2019 11:17 AM

I support Trump’s nuke a hurricane plan.

At least once, I mean, YES.

Reminds me of the Idiocracy movie but like the cool stuff they did

I mean how cool would it look? Real ****ing cool!

Anteater 08-27-2019 02:09 PM

What do you think of him wanting to buy Greenland?

Psy-Fi 08-27-2019 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2074945)
I support Trump’s nuke a hurricane plan.

At least once, I mean, YES.

Reminds me of the Idiocracy movie but like the cool stuff they did

I mean how cool would it look? Real ****ing cool!


Psy-Fi 08-27-2019 05:58 PM


OccultHawk 08-27-2019 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2074969)
What do you think of him wanting to buy Greenland?

It actually makes my balls tingle.

The Batlord 08-28-2019 06:15 AM

Canada will be caught in a three way crossfire between the main country, Alaska, and Greenland. Victory will be assured.

Mindfulness 08-29-2019 06:52 AM

Get em Bernie!
https://i.imgur.com/SRIXMdQ.gif

jwb 09-03-2019 06:44 PM



So Bernie's alternative to UBI is to work for the govt. Someone explain to me how Yang is not to the left of Bernie on this issue?

jwb 09-03-2019 07:22 PM

You don't necessarily forgo other govt assistance.. you just get that amount deducted from your UBI. Which isn't that unreasonable. If you're already getting 1000 a month in govt assistance you need more then something is wrong with that picture.

It would disproportionately help lower income people who are very unlikely to be paying 12k a year in vat taxes aimed at companies like Amazon, so even though everyone gets a check it is a direct redistribution of wealth

Where as Bernie's alternative is if you want to work for the govt you can? Weak.

The Batlord 09-03-2019 07:26 PM

jwb: real men live off beans and rubbing dirt on it

jwb 09-03-2019 07:27 PM

Batlord: real men live off the beans their mom made for them

The Batlord 09-03-2019 07:40 PM

i make my own beans. i only need her to work the can opener. those things are the ****ing devil.

jwb 09-03-2019 07:41 PM

They make electric ones now. That's automation slowly but surely replacing America's moms.

#yang4chairman

The Batlord 09-03-2019 07:44 PM

imma have to start digging her grave again. there's always some bull**** reason i give up on it but not this time.

jwb 09-03-2019 07:46 PM

:laughing:

Wouldn't be surprised if she's just a skeleton sitting in a chair upstairs, knowing you.

The Batlord 09-03-2019 07:47 PM

a sticky skeleton

jwb 09-03-2019 07:49 PM

And you only wear the wig whenever you have to hack open a can of beans.

The Batlord 09-03-2019 07:53 PM

*looks at thread title*

Sorry DWV. Yeah he's real ****in' sorry.

jwb 09-03-2019 08:00 PM

Where is the political discussions for children thread?

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...10&oe=5DFB16D8

DwnWthVwls 09-03-2019 08:08 PM

Chris Cuomo is a douche. Am i doing it right?

Anteater 09-03-2019 08:22 PM

His name is Fredo now.

OccultHawk 09-03-2019 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2076174)
Unless he's since changed it, he said it was specifically either or

He did and I can’t get with that philosophically. It’s more of the same of the punitive approach to the poor. If you can’t just say yeah we’re going to top off your food stamps and whatever with a little spending money then I’m just not down with it. It’s called UNIVERSAL basic income why deny it to those who need it the most?

OccultHawk 09-03-2019 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2076175)
it's also everyone over 18

so what if you're taking care of a family of 3 on low income

you likely get straight up nothing

Totally uncool.


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