What if you appear very androgynous and you don’t care if people think you’re male or female?

I don't believe I said that.

some are, imo

most trans people fall into the category of mtf or ftm. More so mtf.

So basically even if I'm right I shouldn't be saying what I'm saying here?

Should we differentiate between statutory rape and forced rape?

NVM I guess adding sexual assault to it does differentiate it.

:confused:

They're milktoast liberals like Obama and Hillary. The youth angle and the fact she's a woman and he's gay are just symbolic "change." Gabbard would be good on foreign policy but that's probably about it.

But we'd have one of the most smoking hot world leaders.

My dream ticket, although I realize it's a pipe dream.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...7sQMIkpOz7BqOg

Added bonus (for me): Tulsi is a very sincere Vaishnava Hindu who chants in Washington Square Park. :)

She's a cartoon, dude.

yuck @ Pocahontas.

the homophobia thing was when she was a kid wasn't it?

Dunno about the torture part

Tulsi has apologized over and over again for her past homophobic views and says she regrets them and disavows them. I tend to believe her, because she's an ally of the LGBT+ community today and has a perfect record for pro-LGBT+ legislation and has co-sponsored many bills for LGBT+ rights. As of 2011 she voiced support for same-sex marriage and commitment toward repealing the Defense of Marriage Act.

I say let's just give Hillary another chance.

The fact that she ever held that stance as an adult says a lot about her character. Plus, she's a self-described war hawk.

^You're joking?

Now that's a hawk.

Lol. She's against all the wars we are in rn.

I agree, except she was a fairly young adult (19-22) and has since become an active supporter of the LGBTQ+ community. From what I understand, she grew up in a very conservative household but her views evolved considerably when she struck out on her own personally and professionally. Which I think says a lot about her character, as well.

EDIT: As for war: Tulsi has stated in interviews that she is a hawk when it comes to fighting terrorism, but a dove when it comes to regime change wars.

Finally, I can't help loving the way Tulsi completely obliterated the hypocritical Kamala Harris in the debate.

I'm not a supporter of her either cause she is only oriented towards that one talking point on regime change wars. Like you said she brings not enough to the table.

I just don't care about her former religious self.

I love Warren also - but I think she is weaker on foreign policy. She is amazing, though, and I would absolutely support Bernie/Warren.

I really hope all this recession talk is wrong.

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy

I think it's just a levelling out of the overinvesting in response to the Fed's rate cut from a few weeks ago.

that's sorta what it seems like

From what I read the Dow drop happened because of China's retaliation to Trump's trade tariffs. People started pulling their stocks with uncertainty. They started going back up after China announced that they are going to try and reach a consensus with the US. So recession warning may have just been a precaution. A lot depends on this meeting though.

But from what I've found we've experienced some of the biggest Dow drops under Trump. We've also experienced some of the biggest rises under Trump too. I'm not sure what that means.

I honestly think the president has less to do with the state of the economy than we think.

Specific **** you do can hurt the economy yes. And maybe if you're plunging downwards, something like the stimulus can soften the blow.

But as for genuine growth... I think that's largely outside their control.

I think the economy is a very unstable thing but I do think the policies we pass have a significant impact. The last recession was directly linked to the deregulation of bank lending such as the affordable home act. Not every bounce in the Dow is directly related to how well the economy is (from what I understand). It's just noted that 9 times out of 10 huge drops in the Dow just like yesterday's has historically been followed by a recession. This time it was directly caused by the president.

Yeh but that was a Clinton era policy. And Clinton was always credited with having a great economy. That's kinda exactly what I mean...

I thought it was deregulated under Bush. That's kind of what we mean when we say it usually takes longer for somebody to put us in a recession. Policies typically don't have an immediate effect.

Edit: And that wasn't they only lending policy that added to the 2008 recession, it's just the most notable one.

They both did. I guess Bush actually wanted to add regulations but couldn't because they wanted to strike a deal to push it through.

*Wouldn't.

Edit: I'm reading an article about it that says Bush was really trying to push for getting as many home owners as possible especially for minorities and he didn't think it should be regulated. In regards to the act that Bill pushed he did want to add regulations because he foresaw what they'd do but wasn't willing to cut a deal to push it through. It's definitely both administrations.

It's always annoying how hard it is just to get clear information on these things. I get it's not a simple issue and there are tons of different pieces to the puzzle but it's annoying how much you have to dig to learn things so you're not spewing misinformation around like a PragerU add.

We've had the largest point drops under Trump because the Dow is at it's highest point in history and it would've happened under any president. All of the largest drops in points occurred under Bush, Obama, and Trump. In terms of greatest drops by percentage of the Dow, the largest ones occurred on Black Monday and during the Great Depression. Some of the highest percentile changes did occur under Clinton and Bush though.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...strial_Average

Okay, I assume that's why they never made that big of a deal the many other times the Dow dropped 800 points last year.

The Dow is a pretty ****ty and archaic reflection of the economy anyways.

Ahh so taking faith that you understand better than I then I'm validated in my understanding of the Dow.

But bad trade is seriously a huge economy crippler. (Also from what I understand) It always seems to be the biggest thing that destroys socialist/communist countries.

I wouldnt vote for you.

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Not heard of this one. Time to hit the books.