Political Discussions for "Adults"

The Batlord · 08-29-2020, 06:26 PM

I don't think that gave you skepticism cause it was legitimate, I think it gave you skepticism cause you were looking for reasons to be fair and balanced.

Yeah sure bureaucracies **** up, but if the end result is that you end up siding with a wannabe fascist who's just selling an excuse to maintain power then maybe you're a moron. I mean come on you probably never shed a single brain cell worrying over election viability until a sociopath who knew he could manipulate idiots gave you the right narrative to eat up.

Seriously how much did you worry about this four years ago? Eight years ago?

OccultHawk · 08-29-2020, 06:41 PM

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Thank you for the polite wording, OH. I also don't want to be argumentative, but I can't help feeling that you're being a bit harsh on the 90% of Dems, who you give zero credit for choosing "unacceptable".

I'd agree that the other survey option, to label death on a massive scale as "acceptable" is horrific as you say, although I'm finding it difficult to correlate that stance of respect for human life with this rather apocalyptic vision:-

If there were no such thing America, I wonder what would become of the Americans? How much hardship, violence, loss of life would be "acceptable" to bring about your vision?

This is how I put it before

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Think of it like Hell. And since this a mythological analogy please allow my the latitude of pretending that the souls in this hell cannot be saved. There are two choices: allow Hell to continue on adding more burning souls daily or it can just be wiped from existence souls and all. The latter is clearly the more humane choice. America needs to be euthanized, so to speak.

I believe that.

There’s also the problem that America’s existence profoundly increases the likelihood that humankind will face a full on extinction level event. And I’m talking about not one single human survivor. Nuclear war. Environmental disaster. The perpetuation of violence solution thinking globally. America’s global position actively prohibits the rest of the planet from operating in a cooperative manner.

I know Bat calls this reverse narcissism but the size of America’s economy and military and the imperialist nature of its virulent necro-capitalism speaks for itself.

I think when this really sunk in completely was last year when I reading a book about what America did to the Bikini Atoll. I already knew that history but that plus what was going on in my life really really brought home how horrible and rotten this place really is.

The Batlord · 08-29-2020, 07:18 PM

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I know Bat calls this reverse narcissism but the size of America’s economy and military and the imperialist nature of its virulent necro-capitalism speaks for itself.

I don't know what the **** you're talking about but I'm firmly in the "we're ****ed" cause the economic status quo is either in denial that the world is currently on its way to a death sentence, or even more likely the economic status quo is going to ignore all of that while the rest of us watch the earth descend into death because the status quo is willing to commit murder to ensure that enough people don't think in ways that hurt their bottom line.

Anteater · 08-29-2020, 07:28 PM

Six?

The Daily Mail - Six Democrat mayors in Minnesota endorse Donald Trump because 'Joe Biden did nothing to help the working class'

OccultHawk · 08-29-2020, 07:34 PM

This is pretty crazy

If I got the story right this woman wasn’t being political at all and this mob, I guess you’d call it, start insisting she raise her fist in solidarity with BLM. From what I gather she supports the movement but just didn’t want to be bossed around. To me, the randomness of it, choosing an apparently disengaged target has a Maoist Red Guard feeling to it. They took it a hundred levels higher but it still reminds me of it. I do believe that what the right fears about the left could actually manifest. As in a frightening form of communism. I also believe that no matter how radical the right seems now with their militias and **** the left the FAR left has the potential to be far more extreme. Fear the left, bitches. Still I’d happily open fire on a group that just approached me and started spewing all that corona on me but still I like it. An odd dichotomy. For sure **** like this can’t go on without things escalating. And then that crowd looks like a bunch of suburban privilegists. So odd.

OccultHawk · 08-29-2020, 07:36 PM

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I don't know what the **** you're talking about but I'm firmly in the "we're ****ed" cause the economic status quo is either in denial that the world is currently on its way to a death sentence, or even more likely the economic status quo is going to ignore all of that while the rest of us watch the earth descend into death because the status quo is willing to commit murder to ensure that enough people don't think in ways that hurt their bottom line.

When I say America is the worst country on earth you call me a narcissist.

OccultHawk · 08-29-2020, 07:43 PM

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Six?

The Daily Mail - Six Democrat mayors in Minnesota endorse Donald Trump because 'Joe Biden did nothing to help the working class'

Man, when I got that tax penalty for losing my health insurance after I lost my teaching job I had to pay $700 for NOT being insured because of the affordable care act. My hatred for the Obama administration was ****ing visceral and savage. I totally get that it was entirely unforgivable and there are tons of reasons to hate the living **** out of Biden.

SGR · 08-29-2020, 07:43 PM

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I don't think that gave you skepticism cause it was legitimate, I think it gave you skepticism cause you were looking for reasons to be fair and balanced.

I've given you sources, and you continue to attribute your imaginary motivations to me.

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Yeah sure bureaucracies **** up, but if the end result is that you end up siding with a wannabe fascist who's just selling an excuse to maintain power then maybe you're a moron.

I'm not siding with anyone - I'm saying that there's a potential for meaningful fraud. I'm not saying, like Trump is, that if he loses then the election must be rigged. You just admitted that "bureaucracies **** up" - that's the whole point. We're going to have an unprecedented amount of mail-in ballots. You said that there was no reason to believe that there may be reasons to contest the election results. Considering, as you pointed out, things can go wrong (especially considering the scale), that's enough reason to be suspect of the results, for either side. Hillary has suggested that Joe shouldn't concede under any circumstances, and I agree. It will take time to tabulate the results, it might take over a month, or even longer. Though Hillary's claim is founded on the idea that Republicans will try to "mess up absentee balloting", her recommendation is applicable to both sides. This will be an unprecedented kind of election.

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I mean come on you probably never shed a single brain cell worrying over election viability until a sociopath who knew he could manipulate idiots gave you the right narrative to eat up.

Seriously how much did you worry about this four years ago? Eight years ago?

Again, this election will be unlike previous elections.

The Batlord · 08-29-2020, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

This is pretty crazy

If I got the story right this woman wasn’t being political at all and this mob, I guess you’d call it, start insisting she raise her fist in solidarity with BLM. From what I gather she supports the movement but just didn’t want to be bossed around. To me, the randomness of it, choosing an apparently disengaged target has a Maoist Red Guard feeling to it. They took it a hundred levels higher but it still reminds me of it. I do believe that what the right fears about the left could actually manifest. As in a frightening form of communism. I also believe that no matter how radical the right seems now with their militias and **** the left the FAR left has the potential to be far more extreme. Fear the left, bitches. Still I’d happily open fire on a group that just approached me and started spewing all that corona on me but still I like it. An odd dichotomy. For sure **** like this can’t go on without things escalating. And then that crowd looks like a bunch of suburban privilegists. So odd.

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When I say America is the worst country on earth you call me a narcissist.

Because you specify America for the sake of specifying America. You just sound like you want to call out the brand name you like the least. The human race doesn't need America to murder itself.

OccultHawk · 08-29-2020, 07:50 PM

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The human race doesn't need America to murder itself.

I guess that’s where we disagree then.

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