Universal Basic Income or Class Warfare

Lucem Ferre · 12-21-2018, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I agree. They arent exactly right either, they dont have the resources or knowledge to talk about their positions as a matter of fact, even though theyd have you believe otherwise. And they get annoyed when i nitpick at them about it, which is pretty funny.

Edit: phone editing is hard

Yeah, my phone makes me sound even more retarded.

Anteater · 12-21-2018, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

this is pretty much known to be a myth

the biggest advancements in those fields have all been done in the public sector

private companies take government research and monetize it, their marketing budgets dwarfing any money spent on R&D

unless you want to count military competition as capitalist tendencies I suppose

If it weren't for those evil capitalists, the only people today who would have access to any sort of legit personal computing would be government workers and university employees / researchers. Until the free market got involved, the interfaces were inefficient (and that's a nice way of putting it). You only reap the benefits of the internet in its current state (and associated tech) because you had innovative people in the private sector who wanted to create better products and services. When has government ever gone out of its way to become more efficient or cost-effective for the average person?

OccultHawk · 12-21-2018, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

If it weren't for those evil capitalists, the only people today who would have access to any sort of legit personal computing would be government workers and university employees / researchers. Until the free market got involved, the interfaces were inefficient (and that's a nice way of putting it). You only reap the benefits of the internet in its current state (and associated tech) because you had innovative people in the private sector who wanted to create better products and services. When has government ever gone out of its way to become more efficient or cost-effective for the average person?

I think being able to mail something across the country in about 4 days for less than a dollar is a good deal.

Anteater · 12-21-2018, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I think being able to mail something across the country in about 4 days for less than a dollar is a good deal.

Depends on what you are trying to send. In a lot of cases, UPS and FedEx can blow the USPS out of the water.

DwnWthVwls · 12-21-2018, 01:55 PM

I can at least see where youre coming from with the personal computers even if i disagree but the internet? Really? What would we have to do with it?

DwnWthVwls · 12-21-2018, 02:06 PM

Hitting the New Castles early today, huh?

The Batlord · 12-21-2018, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I can at least see where youre coming from with the personal computers even if i disagree but the internet? Really? What would we have to do with it?

I mean he'd have killed himself without the internet so we'd all be richer.

~~MicShazam~~ · 12-21-2018, 02:24 PM

I like how the internet allows me to forget that I have no life.

The Batlord · 12-21-2018, 02:42 PM

I like how the internet allows the human race to imagine that it has a purpose.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 12-21-2018, 04:56 PM

Notice that those who are bitching that we all need to destitute ourselves in the name of charity are doing exactly as much to end world poverty as those saying the exact opposite . . .

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