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Old 01-29-2015, 03:45 PM   #2681 (permalink)
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Rosebud is the emblem of the security, hope and innocence of childhood, which a man can spend his life seeking to regain. It is the green light at the end of Gatsby's pier; the leopard atop Kilimanjaro, seeking nobody knows what; the bone tossed into the air in “2001.” It is that yearning after transience that adults learn to suppress. “Maybe Rosebud was something he couldn't get, or something he lost,” says Thompson, the reporter assigned to the puzzle of Kane's dying word. “Anyway, it wouldn't have explained anything.” True, it explains nothing, but it is remarkably satisfactory as a demonstration that nothing can be explained. “Citizen Kane” likes playful paradoxes like that. Its surface is as much fun as any movie ever made. Its depths surpass understanding. I have analyzed it a shot at a time with more than 30 groups, and together we have seen, I believe, pretty much everything that is there on the screen. The more clearly I can see its physical manifestation, the more I am stirred by its mystery.
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Old 01-29-2015, 03:49 PM   #2682 (permalink)
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Old 01-29-2015, 04:05 PM   #2683 (permalink)
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Rosebud is the emblem of the security, hope and innocence of childhood, which a man can spend his life seeking to regain. It is the green light at the end of Gatsby's pier; the leopard atop Kilimanjaro, seeking nobody knows what; the bone tossed into the air in “2001.” It is that yearning after transience that adults learn to suppress. “Maybe Rosebud was something he couldn't get, or something he lost,” says Thompson, the reporter assigned to the puzzle of Kane's dying word. “Anyway, it wouldn't have explained anything.” True, it explains nothing, but it is remarkably satisfactory as a demonstration that nothing can be explained. “Citizen Kane” likes playful paradoxes like that. Its surface is as much fun as any movie ever made. Its depths surpass understanding. I have analyzed it a shot at a time with more than 30 groups, and together we have seen, I believe, pretty much everything that is there on the screen. The more clearly I can see its physical manifestation, the more I am stirred by its mystery.
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Yes, it's a metaphor. I get that. We all get that. That doesn't make it any less of a goofy thing for someone to say on their deathbed. The fact that someone like Ebert is jerking off so hard trying to explain it doesn't make it any less dated of a scene. I can appreciate that for its time, it may have been a masterpiece. But it is not that time anymore, and I should not be expected to abide by the same standards as people from more than half a century ago just cause they say I should.
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Old 01-29-2015, 04:11 PM   #2684 (permalink)
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It lives up to and surpasses modern standards in everything but the acting. We're you forced to watch this for a class or something? You have a Soulfloweresque irrational hatred for the film.
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Old 01-29-2015, 04:18 PM   #2685 (permalink)
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It lives up to and surpasses modern standards in everything but the acting. We're you forced to watch this for a class or something? You have a Soulfloweresque irrational hatred for the film.
Yup. Class. And I don't much care for movies from that era in general. The dated acting and dialogue is like nails on a chalkboard to me. Although, TBH, listening to real Americans talk any time from around the beginning of last century to the sixties bugs me. There was just an accent and way of speaking that makes them sound like *******s.

For the longest time I thought Humphrey Bogart was just putting on the weirdest act ever in his movies, then I realized that just about everybody from that time period talked like Humphrey Bogart. It made me like America just a little less.
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Old 01-29-2015, 04:32 PM   #2686 (permalink)
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Yup. Class. And I don't much care for movies from that era in general. The dated acting and dialogue is like nails on a chalkboard to me. Although, TBH, listening to real Americans talk any time from around the beginning of last century to the sixties bugs me. There was just an accent and way of speaking that makes them sound like *******s.

For the longest time I thought Humphrey Bogart was just putting on the weirdest act ever in his movies, then I realized that just about everybody from that time period talked like Humphrey Bogart. It made me like America just a little less.
Some of them were made up accents to get notice. I heard Cary Grant's accent was made up.

I really don't want to tell you the reason behind Orson Wells using "Rosebud" - too bizarre.
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Old 01-29-2015, 04:41 PM   #2687 (permalink)
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I really don't want to tell you the reason behind Orson Wells using "Rosebud" - too bizarre.
For my own personal amusement, I'm just going to assume it has to do with pedophilia.
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Old 01-29-2015, 05:02 PM   #2688 (permalink)
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Old 01-29-2015, 05:21 PM   #2690 (permalink)
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