Album Wars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unknown Soldier · 07-19-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt

81 minutes long? Seriously? I'd be lucky to last 10 when Proggressive Rock is concerned.

That`s why I suggested it. Its an album that displays the worst excesses of prog. If the sheer length doesn`t finish you off, the endless prog doodling certainly will.

TheCunningStunt · 07-19-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

That`s why I suggested it. Its an album that displays the worst excesses of prog. If the sheer length doesn`t finish you off, the endless prog doodling certainly will.

Oh right, yeah I see t you mean. I thought you were suggesting it because it's a great album. I bet listening to all 81 minutes would be painful.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-19-2010, 03:57 PM

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Oh right, yeah I see t you mean. I thought you were suggesting it because it's a great album. I bet listening to all 81 minutes would be painful.

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TheCunningStunt · 07-19-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I already sacrificed myself so you don't have to....

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Unknown Soldier · 07-19-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt

Oh right, yeah I see t you mean. I thought you were suggesting it because it's a great album. I bet listening to all 81 minutes would be painful.

I`m a prog fan but its not my favourite genre, therefore I can be very objective on it. Most of the famous prog albums of the 70`s fall into two categories: They`re either classic albums that you just have to hear or their full of downright self indulgance or full of excess that would drive the unprepared listener to hate everything prog.

As far as Genesis goes, they`re actually one of the more accessible prog bands to get into, once you`ve got your head around Gabriel`s surrealism.

Seltzer · 07-19-2010, 04:21 PM

I prefer Selling England by the Pound

debaserr · 07-19-2010, 05:29 PM

yea i am a bit surprised the vote is so lopsided. i love both...

boo boo · 07-19-2010, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt

Oh right, yeah I see t you mean. I thought you were suggesting it because it's a great album. I bet listening to all 81 minutes would be painful.

Oh great now we're writing off Tales From Topographic Oceans without actually listening to that one too eh?

You're annoying and I don't like you. Tales is a great album and one of Yes's best works, I can understand why people don't like it but don't f*cking talk sh*t about it if you haven't heard it and just want to ape popular consensus.

Yes DO have some really bad stuff but Tales isn't among them. You want a bad Yes album try Big Generator. I love most of their prog stuff, but the pop stuff started out good and veered off into self parody pretty fast.

TheCunningStunt · 07-19-2010, 07:27 PM

81 minutes seems really painful, reading Urban's minute by minute review exhausted me. Never mind listening to the actual album. I actually believe listening to all 81 minutes would make me lose the will to live.

I don't want to ape the popular consensus at all you fool. I've never even heard of the album before it was suggested to me. I thought it was a classic in the genre of progressive rock at first. I have no idea what the consensus is, unless we're talking about the consensus of people on here.

It's 2-1 to people who dislike it.

And I'm going to make this perfectly clear, I am NOT listening to another pretentious, self indulgent Progressive Rock record just so I can say for sure 'yeah, that's bad. I don't like that.' 81 minutes of progressive rock SEEMS horrible, I bet the realities are far worse. I'm sick of listening to Progressive Rock albums just so I can judge them on their own merits. I'm done with it. You can't say I haven't tried the genre, because I have. I've just reached the point where I'm f*cking sick of it.

boo boo · 07-19-2010, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt

81 minutes seems really painful, reading Urban's minute by minute review exhausted me. Never mind listening to the actual album. I actually believe listening to all 81 minutes would make me lose the will to live.

I don't want to ape the popular consensus at all you fool. I've never even heard of the album before it was suggested to me. I thought it was a classic in the genre of progressive rock at first. I have no idea what the consensus is, unless we're talking about the consensus of people on here.

It's 2-1 to people who dislike it.

And I'm going to make this perfectly clear, I am NOT listening to another pretentious, self indulgent Progressive Rock record just so I can say for sure 'yeah, that's bad. I don't like that.' 81 minutes of progressive rock SEEMS horrible, I bet the realities are far worse. I'm sick of listening to Progressive Rock albums just so I can judge them on their own merits. I'm done with it. You can't say I haven't tried the genre, because I have. I've just reached the point where I'm f*cking sick of it.

The great majority of the idiotic music press (Blender for example) that hates on progressive rock usually make Tales their greatest target and it's often cited as one of the main reasons prog rock fail out of favor.

Because of this when I checked the album out I had preconceptions that it would be horrible and what I found instead was a really damn good album that grew on me over time and only increased my love for the band.

I pretty much consider it the most misunderstood album in rock music history and not at all deserving of the smearing it gets.

Yeah it's a very long album but I think they suceed in providing enough interesting ideas to warrant the song length, for the most part anyway. The Ancient is too disjointed and padded out, the other 3 tracks are excellent though and besides it's not any more indulgent than the stuff Can did on Tago Mago. Yes should have made it a 3 side album but who in the f*ck does that? Release it as one LP and an EP?

Also 20 minutes of filler > 30 minutes of filler.

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TheCunningStunt love will tear you apart Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Manchester, UK. Posts: 5,107	81 minutes seems really painful, reading Urban's minute by minute review exhausted me. Never mind listening to the actual album. I actually believe listening to all 81 minutes would make me lose the will to live. I don't want to ape the popular consensus at all you fool. I've never even heard of the album before it was suggested to me. I thought it was a classic in the genre of progressive rock at first. I have no idea what the consensus is, unless we're talking about the consensus of people on here. It's 2-1 to people who dislike it. And I'm going to make this perfectly clear, I am NOT listening to another pretentious, self indulgent Progressive Rock record just so I can say for sure 'yeah, that's bad. I don't like that.' 81 minutes of progressive rock SEEMS horrible, I bet the realities are far worse. I'm sick of listening to Progressive Rock albums just so I can judge them on their own merits. I'm done with it. You can't say I haven't tried the genre, because I have. I've just reached the point where I'm f*cking sick of it. __________________ I don't feel and I feel great. Last FM