Popularity/influence doesn't make them not lame, and Godsmack's lack of relative influence compared to the Beatles doesn't make them 'lame'

This isn't a popularity contest, we all know how goddamned popular the Beatles were but's irrelevent.

I'm not the one who brought Godsmack up in this thread, the ones who are trying to defend the Beatles brought up Godsmack to change the subject and distract everyone from the painfully obvious fact that the Beatles, regardless of how popular they were, were a lame, fruity pop band.

Yeah. Godsmack is basically Alice in Chains dumbed down for the Limp Bizkit generation.

I can tell you this much though, at least they're better than Oomph.

Oomph is industrial metal garbage for kids who think Orgy is too high brow.

lame, fruity pop > fast, heavy pseudo-industrial geared towards angsty adolescents

lame, fruity pop < fast, heavy pseudo-industrial geared towards angsty adolescents

Also, what do you mean by 'pseudo' industrial? What band pretends to be industrial but isn't really industrial? Oh wait, that has no meaning and you just want to glibbly fling around random prefixes to make you sound like your intelligent to compensate for weak argument (actually, no argument in this instance)

Do you have some issue with people who suffer from anxiety or something?

Blues music is just 'geared towards' sad people?

Angst and anxiety are actually two very different things.

And I used to prefix "pseudo" because what Industrial means to me is a genre of mechanical-sounding noise and drone influenced directly by the noise experiments of the futurists and musique concrete, such as Throbbing Gristle, Nurse With Wound, Cabaret Voltaire and NON. Bands such as Oomph or Ministry or NIN, who basically take Coil's innovations and water it down with heavy metal are, to me, pseudo-Industrial.

And you're right, I didn't have an argument. If anything I was trying to deconstruct your objective approach to writing off certain bands.

I really love The Downard Spiral.

NiN is pretty much the only industrial metal I like though.

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I don't know how good the quality of your speakers are, but I have a decent stereo with nice sub-wofers, and when you have these guys blasting you'll want to head bang until you black-out. That's what good music does, it actually fucking moves you.

That BS pop garbage you guys listen to makes you tap your fingers at best compared to bands like this.

Talk about low reading comprehension. Reread his post. He's not talking about them not being measurable, he's saying they don't have a measurable value.


He's saying that that's a stupid way to measure music because according to you you can just add sound for the sake of adding sound and it will be objectively good.


Once again, you're misreading his posts to the point of ridiculousness.


How? What is good in music varies person to person.

Prove to me that Beethoven is better using scientific method.


You're making ridiculous comparisons. Thinking the earth is round has nothing to with personal preference.


But these have all been used together before...

Good for you! The Beatles still have more diversity, so...


Without the Beatles Godsmack wouldn't be anything close what they are now.



READING COMPREHENSION!!! He's talking about the Beatles.


Seeing as you've never heard any Beatles other than Please Please Me...


You really doubt the Beatles passion?
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Well, it's not lame, but it's still pretty crappy.

You know what Oomph? If you want to talk about experimentation, technical ability, and complicated song structures why don't you listen to bands like King Crimson, Genesis, The Mars Volta and Porcupine Tree?