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**Frownland** · 08-19-2016, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind

That was one of the albums suggested in my workout music thread. I've been meaning to listen to it, but I haven't done a workout where I can listen to music since my last review in that thread.

And are you saying the genre is punk or it has the punk attitude.

It's hip hop with a punk attitude.

Blank. · 08-19-2016, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It's hip hop with a punk attitude.

Ok. Would you say that it's genre is still punk rock?

**Frownland** · 08-19-2016, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind

Ok. Would you say that it's genre is still punk rock?

Not really, but kind of. It's hard to explain, just check it out.

Dylstew · 08-19-2016, 02:23 PM

''who really decides what the essence of a genre is''
I mean, I know it's subjective. I know it's just some people who would catagorize certain bands based on certain simialarities. But it just surprises me how often there's these bands that play pretty much the same kind of music aren't called Punk just because they're popular, have changed elements the result of which they don't like, or a band is awful. It just feels arbitrary, and hell, narrow minde/limiting, like Punk has to have this very specific sound or something.

Anywho,
Garage Rock was a derogatary term for amateurish rock n' roll bands, implying they're youngins who practice in their parents garage..
Punk Rock was inspired by said Rock N' Roll bands, and well, look at the name, it means something similar. Punk is slang for young and inexperienced. It just started as simplified, straight to the point, fast/brief rock n' roll mostly by young amateurs. Ofcourse as it developed, it has attained more characteristics/conventions, including, typical sounds. As it's so simple, you might notice it unlike metal making blatantly new sounds inspired by some previous ones it tends to blatantly mix with other genres. It's not easy to make very different sounds while still capturing all the charm of punk.

Death Grips has Punk aggression/energy/attitude and rawness and tensity we'd really get when Hardcore came around. It's hip hop in punk spirit, but it's not really hip hop mixed with any of the punk sounds, it doesn't really make any use of punk conventions. It's hip hop and electronic music through and through. It also doesn't have the amateurish/straight to the point/simple aspect to it though, but neither do some actual punk bands anymore.

Blank. · 08-19-2016, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

is Nevermind a punk album?

It's all power chords minus the major barre chords (anthem chords)

Cream played downstrummed power chords. Sunshine of Your Love is all power chords

Tom Verlaine played less power chords than Eric Clapton

OMG! Other genres use power chords? This changes.... nothing. Can you find a better argument other then, "other people use a common type of chord to make music."

**Frownland** · 08-19-2016, 03:00 PM

I know it when I see it.

Blank. · 08-19-2016, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I know it when I see it.

Not sure what you're getting at frown.

**Frownland** · 08-19-2016, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind

Not sure what you're getting at frown.

I was talking about punk.

Blank. · 08-19-2016, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I was talking about punk.

Oh. Ok. Makes sense.

Dylstew · 08-19-2016, 03:09 PM

Metal genres have riffing styles. Punk genres have riffing styles. They both use power chords, one more than the other, but often in generally different ways.
I don't think nevermind is a punk album, though, Territorial Pissings is 100% a punk song. (Don't remember much songs off the album tho, maybe there's more).

08-19-2016, 03:00 PM	#12456 (permalink)
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08-19-2016, 02:23 PM	#12454 (permalink)
Dylstew Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,366	''who really decides what the essence of a genre is'' I mean, I know it's subjective. I know it's just some people who would catagorize certain bands based on certain simialarities. But it just surprises me how often there's these bands that play pretty much the same kind of music aren't called Punk just because they're popular, have changed elements the result of which they don't like, or a band is awful. It just feels arbitrary, and hell, narrow minde/limiting, like Punk has to have this very specific sound or something. Anywho, Garage Rock was a derogatary term for amateurish rock n' roll bands, implying they're youngins who practice in their parents garage.. Punk Rock was inspired by said Rock N' Roll bands, and well, look at the name, it means something similar. Punk is slang for young and inexperienced. It just started as simplified, straight to the point, fast/brief rock n' roll mostly by young amateurs. Ofcourse as it developed, it has attained more characteristics/conventions, including, typical sounds. As it's so simple, you might notice it unlike metal making blatantly new sounds inspired by some previous ones it tends to blatantly mix with other genres. It's not easy to make very different sounds while still capturing all the charm of punk. Death Grips has Punk aggression/energy/attitude and rawness and tensity we'd really get when Hardcore came around. It's hip hop in punk spirit, but it's not really hip hop mixed with any of the punk sounds, it doesn't really make any use of punk conventions. It's hip hop and electronic music through and through. It also doesn't have the amateurish/straight to the point/simple aspect to it though, but neither do some actual punk bands anymore.

08-19-2016, 03:09 PM	#12460 (permalink)
Dylstew Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,366	Metal genres have riffing styles. Punk genres have riffing styles. They both use power chords, one more than the other, but often in generally different ways. I don't think nevermind is a punk album, though, Territorial Pissings is 100% a punk song. (Don't remember much songs off the album tho, maybe there's more).