Unpopular Music Opinions

Terrapin_Station · 09-22-2016, 03:22 PM

When I try to think about something like if I'd like KISS near as much as I do if I were to hear them for the first time now, rather than having 40+ years of nostalgic associations with them, I just can't tell.

I would guess that I might not like them as much without the nostalgic associations, but on the other hand, take a band like Boxer. I managed to not really listen to them until a few years ago, yet I absolutely love them, especially the Below the Belt album. There are some similarities to KISS musically. Take this tune for example:

But then I have to wonder if the reason that I love Boxer now isn't because of those KISS similarities, where my nostalgic attraction to KISS is so strong that it can even carry over to music that I wasn't previously familiar with, but that's nevetheless in a similar vein. (And also, I have just as strong a nostalgia-infused love for tons of hard rock from that era--Aerosmith, Ted Nugent, Alice Cooper, AC/DC, Cheap Trick, etc.)

The first KISS album came out when I was 12, by the way, and I was already a huge music fan--I went to my first concert when I was 6, I started playing drums when I was 6, etc.

At any rate, it's not something I worry about. Especially because I don't buy that there are objective value judgments in the slightest anyway.

~~MicShazam~~ · 09-22-2016, 03:28 PM

I never really listen to Metallica these days. I still say the early albums are good, but I'm bored if I listen to them for more than a few tracks at a time these days. My positive feelings about those albums have got to be mainly nostalgia. I had such a great time with them way back, but I don't need to listen to them much anymore.

Terrapin_Station · 09-22-2016, 03:32 PM

One thing that I seem to be relatively unusual about is that I've never stopped listening to any artist I liked. I do hear stuff I've known for a long time less frequently--it can easily be years between listens to an artist with a small discography, but only because my collection keeps growing, so I can't get to anything in the "back catalog" as often.

Maybe that's part of what makes it more difficult for me to make a separation.

Neapolitan · 09-22-2016, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninetales

"guitar solos" in general are pretty lame imo ok bye

When done right they are the greatest thing since slice bread. These four solos rock my socks off. I think Smoke rings is the cat's pajamas and Samba Triste is the bee's knees, America is the ant's pants and Look Like a Girl is the monkey's eyebrows. You dig daddy-o?

LES PAUL & MARY FORD / SMOKE RINGS

Baden Powell - Samba Triste

Yes - America (Simon & Garfunkel)

The Servants - Look Like A Girl

Chula Vista · 09-22-2016, 10:05 PM

Love Howe's work on that track. This is another great one by him.

Build up to the solo starts around 3:48. Solo starts at 4:57.

djchameleon · 09-23-2016, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

When done right they are the greatest thing since slice bread. These four solos rock my socks off. I think Smoke rings is the cat's pajamas and Samba Triste is the bee's knees, America is the ant's pants and Look Like a Girl is the monkey's eyebrows. You dig daddy-o?

After all the bickering he came to the conclusion that he just doesn't like them and they aren't his taste and he doesn't find them interesting. No matter how many vids you post. They won't change his mind.

Neapolitan · 09-23-2016, 04:38 AM

^good post Chula

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

After all the bickering he came to the conclusion that he just doesn't like them and they aren't his taste and he doesn't find them interesting. No matter how many vids you post. They won't change his mind.

I'm not trying to change his mind. I just thought I share the various guitar solos with him and the rest of the forum, since it is an open forum.

And usually people have their minds already made up before they engage in bickering, or they wouldn't bicker. Tbh I didn't see Nine bicker, so please don't bicker with me bickerman.

Terrapin_Station · 09-23-2016, 06:02 AM

This song has one of my favorite guitar solos . . . and bass parts, and it's one of my favorite tunes, but one of my favorite artists, and . . .

The guitar solo starts just after the three-minute mark, though it works best in the context of the whole tune:

Another favorite tune, from one of my favorite guitarists, who is responsible for a lot of my favorite solos, including this one (and all of those same comments go for the sax, too, by the way (well, and EWI here)):

Chula Vista · 09-23-2016, 10:48 AM

Love Stern but wish he would have turned his chorus off every now and then.

More of some of my faves.

grindy · 09-23-2016, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

One thing that I seem to be relatively unusual about is that I've never stopped listening to any artist I liked. I do hear stuff I've known for a long time less frequently--it can easily be years between listens to an artist with a small discography, but only because my collection keeps growing, so I can't get to anything in the "back catalog" as often.

Maybe that's part of what makes it more difficult for me to make a separation.

I hate pretty much everything I've listened to before I was 18-19.

09-22-2016, 10:05 PM	#12925 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Love Howe's work on that track. This is another great one by him. Build up to the solo starts around 3:48. Solo starts at 4:57. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

09-23-2016, 10:48 AM	#12929 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Love Stern but wish he would have turned his chorus off every now and then. More of some of my faves. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

09-22-2016, 03:22 PM	#12921 (permalink)
Terrapin_Station Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: NYC Man Posts: 877	When I try to think about something like if I'd like KISS near as much as I do if I were to hear them for the first time now, rather than having 40+ years of nostalgic associations with them, I just can't tell. I would guess that I might not like them as much without the nostalgic associations, but on the other hand, take a band like Boxer. I managed to not really listen to them until a few years ago, yet I absolutely love them, especially the Below the Belt album. There are some similarities to KISS musically. Take this tune for example: But then I have to wonder if the reason that I love Boxer now isn't because of those KISS similarities, where my nostalgic attraction to KISS is so strong that it can even carry over to music that I wasn't previously familiar with, but that's nevetheless in a similar vein. (And also, I have just as strong a nostalgia-infused love for tons of hard rock from that era--Aerosmith, Ted Nugent, Alice Cooper, AC/DC, Cheap Trick, etc.) The first KISS album came out when I was 12, by the way, and I was already a huge music fan--I went to my first concert when I was 6, I started playing drums when I was 6, etc. At any rate, it's not something I worry about. Especially because I don't buy that there are objective value judgments in the slightest anyway.

09-22-2016, 03:28 PM	#12922 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,636	I never really listen to Metallica these days. I still say the early albums are good, but I'm bored if I listen to them for more than a few tracks at a time these days. My positive feelings about those albums have got to be mainly nostalgia. I had such a great time with them way back, but I don't need to listen to them much anymore.

09-22-2016, 03:32 PM	#12923 (permalink)
Terrapin_Station Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: NYC Man Posts: 877	One thing that I seem to be relatively unusual about is that I've never stopped listening to any artist I liked. I do hear stuff I've known for a long time less frequently--it can easily be years between listens to an artist with a small discography, but only because my collection keeps growing, so I can't get to anything in the "back catalog" as often. Maybe that's part of what makes it more difficult for me to make a separation.

09-23-2016, 06:02 AM	#12928 (permalink)
Terrapin_Station Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: NYC Man Posts: 877	This song has one of my favorite guitar solos . . . and bass parts, and it's one of my favorite tunes, but one of my favorite artists, and . . . The guitar solo starts just after the three-minute mark, though it works best in the context of the whole tune: Another favorite tune, from one of my favorite guitarists, who is responsible for a lot of my favorite solos, including this one (and all of those same comments go for the sax, too, by the way (well, and EWI here)):