Unpopular Music Opinions

**Frownland** · 12-25-2017, 10:53 AM

I don't like assumptions. Maybe they tried really hard but who cares? Give them cred if the music is good.

Machine · 12-25-2017, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I don't like assumptions. Maybe they tried really hard but who cares? Give them cred if the music is good.

I do. When I hear lazy mistakes or a terrible vocal on to a full length album that fairly big indie labels are putting out, it pisses me off that people just accept this complete disregard for quality. And if they labored over this for months and just couldn't get it right then honestly that's just kinda sad.

Machine · 12-25-2017, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

because the appeal of indie very generally speaking is a lack of contrivance

It's contrived to have ambition?

**Frownland** · 12-25-2017, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Machine

I do. When I hear lazy mistakes or a terrible vocal on to a full length album that fairly big indie labels are putting out, it pisses me off that people just accept this complete disregard for quality. And if they labored over this for months and just couldn't get it right then honestly that's just kinda sad.

So as an artist (lol), do you think it forces you to have a lazy product?

**Frownland** · 12-25-2017, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Machine

It's contrived to have ambition?

It can be contrived to focus more on having a squeaky clean and potentially less organic product than the actual music, yes. But like all things this varies.

Machine · 12-25-2017, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It can be contrived to focus more on having a squeaky clean and potentially less organic product than the actual music, yes. But like all things this varies.

That I completely agree with, but for me personally production is just as important as songs. You need killer songs AND interesting production. Indie albums can have this too even lo-fi albums. Good example being The Glow Pt.2 or Mount Eerie by The Microphones or even Deathconciousness by Have A Nice Life. It's that I hate indie music, I just don't like ****ting out music without a care to the actual recording process.

**Frownland** · 12-25-2017, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Machine

You need killer songs AND interesting production.

If that's your preference then fine, but I can't get behind that. If that's not an artist's aim, having requirements like that are arbitrary.

OccultHawk · 12-25-2017, 12:17 PM

You go on a college campus and the people with the worst taste are music majors. As a fan, I don’t give a **** about the craft. I care about the product. Fancy lush production? Sure if it works. Recorded on a boombox? Cool if it works. Did the guy pull the songs out of his ass on a stoned rainy day or meticulously craft them over years of trial and error? Both are fine by me if I like it.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 12-25-2017, 12:22 PM

yea music i like is the ****in best

Chula Vista · 12-25-2017, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Machine

Idk if this is an unpopular opinion, but lo-fi indie might just be the most limp wristed annoying genre on the planet. It's a genre full of low talented freakshows who have high ambitions to be these bug rockstars, but are just too damn cool to make anything remotely coherent. Because having conviction in your work is just not ****ing cool anymore, and leaving everything unfinished is. People wonder why rock music is dying and rap is taking over as the cultural zeitgeist, but when the only people doing anything interesting and not just rehashing the tropes that were popular 30 years ago are mucking about making rough demo quality music, just too cool to show any sense of masculinity in their music. Gee I wonder why angry teens don't want to listen to your limp wristed bull**** and instead listen to angry ass unapologetically masculine rap music. Really makes you ****ing think. There are two ways to get rock out of the hole it has dug itself into and that's 1) go the route of jazz and become actual art music, or 2) grow some ****ing balls.

I endorse this post. As far as production goes you can't broad brush- if it works, it works.

BTW: Can someone clearly define the genre Indie to me and what are the 5 most important element for a band to it into that label?

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