Unpopular Music Opinions

**Frownland** · 08-16-2018, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

My definition of cringe is stuff that's super self conscious sounding...AKA a lot of punk and pretentious experimental noise falls into this category. Compared to that, DT's take on prog-metal might as well be Mozart.

You don't think that the focus on "technicality" over quality is a bit self-conscious?

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It's a really stupid term overall though, just like "hate speech": can be applied to practically anything you don't like.

Kids these days.

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Originally Posted by grindy

But Mozart sucks.

(Except for some stuff.)

Bam, unpopular opinion.

His compositions are fine for the time. I've heard that his performances were popular because he was such a good improviser, I wonder what it would have been like to see him play his pieces back in the day.

Anteater · 08-16-2018, 10:18 AM

"Technicality" over quality doesn't work as an argument if we're talking about early DT, assuming you know their history and what their early days were like. They built an audience from nothing at a time when every musical trend was turning away from rock and metal that featured keyboards. Psychotic Waltz had a similar dynamic but they lacked the pop sensibility to get to the next level.

I've seen the term "hate speech" in editorials from WaPo and other major publications used in a juvenile fashion by (supposedly) educated adults: maybe that sets a bad example for people getting into journalism.

Key · 08-16-2018, 10:21 AM

Early DT is great.

**Frownland** · 08-16-2018, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

"Technicality" over quality doesn't work as an argument if we're talking about early DT, assuming you know their history and what their early days were like. They built an audience from nothing at a time when every musical trend was turning away from rock and metal that featured keyboards.

I'm talking about the music that has defined them, which includes their early work if you mean garbage like Images and Words or Awake.

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I've seen the term "hate speech" in editorials from WaPo and other major publications used in a juvenile fashion by (supposedly) educated adults: maybe that sets a bad example for people getting into journalism.

Kids these days. People think that editorials are a good way to pick up terminology?

Key · 08-16-2018, 10:25 AM

^Awake isn't great but you're just plain wrong about Images and Words.

Anteater · 08-16-2018, 10:27 AM

Frown's just mad that he couldn't shred like Petrucci at his age.

Lucem Ferre · 08-16-2018, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

I don't really use that as a criticism so I don't have examples.

I guess it'd be defined as something that makes you uncomfortable like it's so awkward.

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Originally Posted by Anteater

My definition of cringe is stuff that's super self conscious sounding...AKA a lot of punk and pretentious experimental noise falls into this category. Compared to that, DT's take on prog-metal might as well be Mozart.

Most things I find cringey typically comes from the opposite. Though, there are people that intentionally act cringey like Tim & Eric's comedy.

grindy · 08-16-2018, 10:28 AM

But he can shred like Joe Pass. *wink*

**Frownland** · 08-16-2018, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

^Awake isn't great but you're just plain wrong about Images and Words.

Images and Words sounds like someone making fun of overwrought and dull musicians.

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Frown's just mad that he couldn't shred like Petrucci at his age.

I have a bigger (I think) and better discography than DT. I'll take that over the shredz.

Key · 08-16-2018, 10:47 AM

I'd recommend listening to Images and Words again since evidently you've forgotten.

08-16-2018, 10:28 AM	#15818 (permalink)
grindy . Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: . Posts: 7,201	But he can shred like Joe Pass. wink __________________ *A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.*

08-16-2018, 10:21 AM	#15813 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	Early DT is great.

08-16-2018, 10:25 AM	#15815 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	^Awake isn't great but you're just plain wrong about Images and Words.

08-16-2018, 10:47 AM	#15820 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	I'd recommend listening to Images and Words again since evidently you've forgotten.