I dunno probably

who listens to music for the music

I like no wave. Teenage Jesus sounds like an uncompromising rock version of some pretentious chick reading bad poetry at a bad poetry recital with guitars at an unsuspecting coffee shop.

Which can be terrible but by the law of punk ended up to be dope as ****.

I mean it did but after all this time who cares? I'm not saying it wasn't important I'm just saying we don't have to keep pretending that it's good.

Eh.

Nobody's pretending. You just don't get it gramps.

I don't want to give the Chula impression that this sucks and there's no point to it. I think it's very important for this to exist as it is a very real and relevant end point for pop music and no matter how this exists it should exist and people should hear it, I'm just saying it sounds like ****. I know that's kinda the point and maybe it's my shortcoming that I can't shake hands with you on this and call it truly brilliant, but I simply can't because I don't like listening to it and it qualifies as bad pretentious to me.

This has intense atmosphere, mostly because of the guitar. And again: energy.

It doesn't at all sound like pop music though. Teenage Jesus sounds like pop music with no pretensions at even sounding good but it's still of the genre on some level. There's a connection and that's why it feels more bizarre to me than Metal Machine Music. Whatever MMM qualifies as I'm not as familiar with as Teenage Jesus and that makes it feel more ****ed up to an extent. Metal Machine Music is on an alien level but the very sound of it makes me understand that I'm supposed to approach it like that. Teenage Jesus makes me feel like I'm supposed to understand it and being as flummoxed as I am by it is more engaging tbh. I still like MMM much more but it actually doesn't feel as hostile.