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You really can't go wrong with any of them but I suppose I'd suggest 'Légende du scorpion à quatre queues'.

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LoathsomePete

If you know 99% of today's metal bands are shit then you should have no problems naming them. Hell I wish I could name 99% of bands from any genre, you must have a lot of time to listen to all of today's new music.

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Unknown Soldier

Maybe you`re not too familiar with the following saying.

"When in a hole......stop digging!"

To write off prog metal as a genre is ridiculous, just because you don`t like Dream Theater (Who as stated above are hardly modern) and the comparison with Trivium is even more ridiculous.

Before writing off a genre, at least listen to some of the diversity and acts in that genre...........it may surprise you.

RVCA

Rock music totally sucks... Nickelback, Linkin Park.... ugh, all of it is s hit

James

99% of Rap and Hip-Hop sucks.
Vanilla Ice, MC Hammer, Soujja Boy, it all sucks.

Mojo

It's a losing battle they have been fighting for hours now. This whole "modern metal is rubbish" debate has been going on since their very first post earlier today.

If they were knowledgeable to the extent they would need to be to make this statement and to be prepared to be so forward with it then I would have been able to at least acknowledge their opinion. However they have nothing to back it up with. They have a personal bias against metal without actually knowing enough about it to make statements like this.

If they just said that they don't like much metal based on what they have heard but that they are no expert, then this would have been over a long time ago. Instead they seem determined to stick to their guns and in doing so, continue to dig a hole.

Instead they have said that "metalheads don't have enough class to appreciate Bob Dylan" and consistently repeated that MODERN metal is rubbish, for hours, yet have only named three bands. Of those three bands one released a debut in 1983 and another in 1989. A more solid argument or reason for their opinion would have been made long before now, if they had one.

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MoonlitSunshine

If you read around the 6th or 7th page of this thread, there's a large argument involving a much younger me about KoRn :P

Also: I think Dream Theater are actually pretty decent musicians. They have a tendency to go on at length sometimes in a way that's totally unnecessary, but every album of theirs that I've listened to has had at least a few enjoyable songs. Regarding the "they sing about nothing that matters" comment, well Percy, I'm not sure what you consider to be the most crucial matters of the world today, but they do song about things that a lot of their (albeit angsty) fans can relate to: Overbearing Hyprocritical parents and unrequieted love ar the two things that come to mind first (Honour Thy Father, and the entirety of Scenes From A Memory). many of their songs tell a story, and personally I believe the first half of Scenes From a Memory to be a pretty excellent piece of work, considering how seamlessly each part flows into the next.

Yes, they are fairly pretentious, yes, they are a fairly sell-out example of Prog Metal, no, they aren't the most innovative of bands, but they still produce some decent music.

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METAShift

Nearly every band ever can be said to have "Some Good Songs". Especially if your music is not very innovative, like Dream Theater's, it's not hard to do so, since most of your stuff is pretty generic. Dream Theater are guilty, to me at least, not for making bad songs(Since their stuff is not that bad, honestly), but for being the superstars of the technical playing, "I can do 10000 notes a minute" crap.

Seriously, Dream Theater are pretty damn bad when it comes to enjoyable and fun music, and REALLY terrible in my book for keeping up that particular fad.

OctaneHugo

Modern post-oriental tribe is such s hit these days. its not even funny how bad its been. i listedn to an album from it 6 yrs ago and it sucked hard. hole genre is so dum. not intellegant at all, lyrix r bad..

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mmm, I would disagree with that. Very little of their music actually involves.. i guess Speed Metal would be the best way to describe it. Of their music that I've heard, which is quite a lot, I couldn't say that I've come across much that would warrant this comment. yes, some of their songs contain some elements of this, but it's hardly the crux of their musical style. If you want to blame someone for that particular fad, I'd recommended stabbing Dragonforce repeatedly. hell, I'll make it easier for you. Have fun!

For an example, let's take one of their better songs (in my opinion).



First off, this made me laugh:

Damn, they're some epic fanboys. But let's not judge a band by their followers, ok?


...Please?



Now, I don't expect all of you taking part in this debate to watch it, perhaps you've already heard it, perhaps you really don't give a shit, so I'll just let you know that there isn't a hint of speed metal at any point in this track. Yeah, they go on a bit at the end, which really isn't necessary, Yes it's not ground breaking, but it's a pretty solid piece of music that I enjoy listening to, the lyrics aren't about nothing, and it's, if clichéd, still a pretty decent build-up. Nowhere near enough to say that they're an exceptional band, not anything ground-breaking, but not Trash, surely? Trash for me is something that is so totally bland that there really is no depth or saving grace to the artist's music whatsoever, and this is not that.

What I'm trying to say is that while there are many things that I would love to smack them over the head for (mainly their latest albums), they do have a fair bit of decent music, some that I would quite happily stop whatever I was doing to listen to, and as was mentioned before they originally formed in 1985. So while their music might sound a little generic at times now, they were among the first to experiment in that area (Wikipedia dates the beginning of Progressive Metal as a genre to be mid-1980's), so they can hardly be accused of being un-creative and following the crowd in an attempt to make music to please the masses (until recently, that is, but it's no like they're the only band in history to have sold out, and it's certainly the case that not all bands who have sold out are trash).

So say what you will about your personal opinions on their music, but I believe it is unnecessarily callous of you all to dump them in with the tripe!

P.S: Regarding the "Some Good Songs" comment, you'll note that I said every album has at least a few good songs. While you might consider the difference to be minimal, I still think that consistency of at least semi-decency raises them above the designated rank of simply overrated popularistic trash.

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