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08-26-2014, 01:42 PM
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There's a lot of bands and artists that don't have an overabundance of actual good material when in comparison to other major acts.
Take Marc Bolan for example, his notoriety definitely exceeds the amount of actual good music he contributed. Just saying... |
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08-26-2014, 02:02 PM
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The Beatles were icons because of their innovations and contributions. They were calling the Beatles icons and legends even then. |
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08-26-2014, 02:02 PM
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None of them have classic songs None of them have significantly contributed or enhanced music. None of them have Iconic albums None of them have Iconic music videos None of them have done anything groundbreaking None of them have iconic performances None of them have classic albums They are all overrated and overexposed. |
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08-26-2014, 02:07 PM
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I dunno about legends, but I'd agree, those are definitely some pop icons
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08-26-2014, 02:07 PM
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08-26-2014, 02:07 PM
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08-26-2014, 02:33 PM
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Nothing I stated were antics. I described a specific performance with desription and how that performance made an impact on audiences as well as how audiences would define Michael as an entertainer. Its an easily recognizable performance and event for that reason because it IS Iconic. Quote:
 Michael enhanced the music video medium and made it into an art form. That was not done before him or before his time. Objectively, he is an innovator that contributed to music and performance regardless whether it was specifically related to music or not. Artists rely heavily on their music videos and keep that in made when they create music. It is very much apart of music just as much as the actual song is itself. Michael created albums and songs that were groundbreaking, impactful, iconic, and classics regardless whether they were innovative or not. He made significant contributions to the industry even through his music. Quote:
They don't have impact now so why would they have impact 50 years from now? There is a difference between classic songs versus classic albums. I personally am not a huge Beatles fan but I like a few of their songs. As legendary as the Beatles are, even they have songs that are not considered to be a "classic" but since the Beatles have a handful of classics, classic albums, significant contributions to music etc, those handful that are not considered classics really does not matter in retrospect because of their impact. Quote:
Kanye had potential but wasted it. He is a better producer than he is rapper anyway. "College Drop Out" possibly has potential will see. People don't really site that album as a classic, they just say that was his best album which is a difference. Quote:
When did I say there wasn't? Quote:
How would you define an Icon? Because I don't see how you can be an Icon with no Iconic albums, no Iconic songs, No Iconic performances, No Iconic videos, etc. How can you be an Iconic when you did nothing groundbreaking or impactful that reasonated with audiences? So your saying what makes an Icon is someone who is overexposed and has a good PR team? That is not an Icon. Say what you want, but MJ, Madonna (who I am not even a big fan of) Prince are Icons because they have Iconic moments in pop culture. They have Iconic songs, albums, performances, videos etc. Prince was not even that popular after the Purple Rain album and still remained an Icon for his contributions. |
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08-26-2014, 02:35 PM
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What live performances that they did that were "groundbreaking"? Just because someone can put on a show does not mean they have "iconic performances" |
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