Most Underrated/Overrated Artists

Alex/ · 06-03-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Live Forever

Maybe I'm biased as a U.K. Rock fan but I think Britpop as a movement and the general emphasis on British rock towards melody and even tempo/rhythm just owns the U.S. and their moaning "ohhhh my life is so hard, mommy and daddy's credit card has just run out" crap that epitomizes much of grunge and punk for me, at least at face value.

England, especially Northern England is twice the ****hole that most of the U.S. is (no offense but be honest) and yet their music is much more melodic, positive, rousing, and rhythmic. Whining sissies from Seattle don't do it for me.

Then again this has nothing to do with the quality of the music. I just prefer a good melodic pop tune to an earthy distorted dark tune.

Hence the preference for an Oasis or a Vampire Weekend as opposed to a Nirvana or a Pink Floyd.

Your view of grunge is disgustingly skewed, and I recommend you actually listen to some of the music and lyrics.

I'm not claiming it's the pinnacle of music or anything, but I mean, that is not what grunge sounds like. You sound like you're describing the current wave of pop punk that's popular with girls between the age of 12 and 15.

However, your preference for the more upbeat music is entirely legitimate. I wouldn't go so far as to say that grunge wasn't "melodic", but it definitely wasn't happy stuff.

Live Forever · 06-03-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex/

Your view of grunge is disgustingly skewed, and I recommend you actually listen to some of the music and lyrics.

I'm not claiming it's the pinnacle of music or anything, but I mean, that is not what grunge sounds like. You sound like you're describing the current wave of pop punk that's popular with girls between the age of 12 and 15.

However, your preference for the more upbeat music is entirely legitimate. I wouldn't go so far as to say that grunge wasn't "melodic", but it definitely wasn't happy stuff.

Let me clarify, I don't think that grunge sounds like that sort of stuff, perhaps my description was a bit flippant... I just think at the base of it all of this sad/angry American music is coming from people who are rebelling against an invisible antagonist. I have really no problem with Grunge, the movement, the history, and the music (and I want to hear more), I'm more just comparing the upbeat melodic nature of 90's U.K. rock to 90's U.S. rock.

I really detest most punk and metal so comparatively grunge has some classic ****.

~~James~~ · 06-03-2010, 12:55 PM

Underrated=The Auteurs

TheCunningStunt · 06-03-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Live Forever

Maybe I'm biased as a U.K. Rock fan but I think Britpop as a movement and the general emphasis on British rock towards melody and even tempo/rhythm just owns the U.S. and their moaning "ohhhh my life is so hard, mommy and daddy's credit card has just run out" crap that epitomizes much of grunge and punk for me, at least at face value.

England, especially Northern England is twice the ****hole that most of the U.S. is (no offense but be honest) and yet their music is much more melodic, positive, rousing, and rhythmic. Whining sissies from Seattle don't do it for me.

Then again this has nothing to do with the quality of the music. I just prefer a good melodic pop tune to an earthy distorted dark tune.

Hence the preference for an Oasis or a Vampire Weekend as opposed to a Nirvana or a Pink Floyd.

Britpop was shit, Suede, Pulp, Elastica, Supergrass didn't do it for me. Oasis weren't even Britpop as such, they were just plain rock but meh. I like them and Blur from that movement. Grunge has Alice in Chains, Nirvana, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam. They're probably a little better but I can't choose between them. Blur and Oasis vs Nirvana and Alice in Chains. Either way, I'm glad to see the back of Britpop.

~~James~~ · 06-03-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by thecunningstunt

britpop was ****, suede, pulp.

**** you man i've lost all respect for you.

TheCunningStunt · 06-03-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by james44754

**** you man i've lost all respect for you.

Haha, sorry. But Suade and Pulp, I just never got it.

then again, it's been a while since I've listened and my music has changed somewhat, maybe a re listen is in order, although I don't think I'll ever like Pulp. That album with Common People on. Urgh.

Live Forever · 06-03-2010, 02:15 PM

I'm not really gonna argue for or against Grunge or Britpop in a way... both were solid movements in the 1990's with some good music. Obviously I think Nirvana and Oasis were the best things to come out of the respective movements (and I think most people would agree), but those are both their own autonomous acts and musical sounds.

Meh nothing else more to say.

~~James~~ · 06-03-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt

Haha, sorry. But Suade and Pulp, I just never got it.

then again, it's been a while since I've listened and my music has changed somewhat, maybe a re listen is in order, although I don't think I'll ever like Pulp. That album with Common People on. Urgh.

Well Suede are excellent and His&Hers and This Is Hardcore are both excellent Pulp albums.
SO REVISIT MAN.
Not to mention all the great bands under the radar like Mansun, The Auteurs, Ultrasound, The Boo Radleys, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci, Longpigs, World Party, Puressence, Drugstore, Animals That Swim, Straw, Space, Octopus, *** Dad

TheCunningStunt · 06-03-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by james44754

Well Suede are excellent and His&Hers and This Is Hardcore are both excellent Pulp albums.
SO REVISIT MAN.
Not to mention all the great bands under the radar like Mansun, The Auteurs, Ultrasound, The Boo Radleys, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci, Longpigs, World Party, Puressence, Drugstore, Animals That Swim, Straw, Space, Octopus, *** Dad

The Boo Radleys? Wake up it's a beautiful morning. *cringe* I haven't heard of a lot of them. Are them all of your favourite Brit Pop artists? I haven't really explored it that much, from what I heard I enjoyed Oasis and Blur and I sang Common People on karaoke once..

Might be time to revisit something I put to bed a while ago.

~~James~~ · 06-03-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt

The Boo Radleys? Wake up it's a beautiful morning. *cringe* I haven't heard of a lot of them. Are them all of your favourite Brit Pop artists? I haven't really explored it that much, from what I heard I enjoyed Oasis and Blur and I sang Common People on karaoke once..

Might be time to revisit something I put to bed a while ago.

Just a list of some underrated ones in no particular order.
And I like The Boo Radleys

06-03-2010, 02:15 PM	#97 (permalink)
Live Forever Groupie Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 39	I'm not really gonna argue for or against Grunge or Britpop in a way... both were solid movements in the 1990's with some good music. Obviously I think Nirvana and Oasis were the best things to come out of the respective movements (and I think most people would agree), but those are both their own autonomous acts and musical sounds. Meh nothing else more to say. __________________ *I'm open to listening any music from anyone, but I will have an opinion and I won't mind saying it like I see it Cheers.*

06-03-2010, 12:55 PM	#93 (permalink)
~~James~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,483	Underrated=The Auteurs