Most Underrated/Overrated Artists

**Janszoon** · 03-02-2012, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck

yes Zooropa

it's brilliant, some music geeks actually agree with me

Count me as one of those music geeks who agrees with you. Joshua Tree is their best album but Zooropa is by far their most underrated. I would say it's tied for second place with Achtung Baby for me. Rattle and Hum, since it was mentioned, is by far their most overrated album.

FRED HALE SR. · 03-02-2012, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Count me as one of those music geeks who agrees with you. Joshua Tree is their best album but Zooropa is by far their most underrated. I would say it's tied for second place with Achtung Baby for me. Rattle and Hum, since it was mentioned, is by far their most overrated album.

The only redeeming music on Zooropa was Stay, thats an outstanding song. I really enjoyed Achtung Baby, but agree with Dave on the huge electronic sound ruining a good rock n roll band. I still find War to be their best effort, probably with Unforgettable Fire pulling in second ahead of Joshua Tree. I find myself liking October better then Zooropa also. It was a huge chance thinking their new sound would appeal to all audience bases.

mr dave · 03-02-2012, 09:11 AM

Why though? Sell me on Zooropa. I remember when it came out back in the day. We couldn't stop laughing and ridiculing the whole '....llllllLLLLEEEmmmoooonnn!' thing. It sounded like the ultimate shark jumping record, just a bunch of thought provoking rock dudes all of a sudden switching onto the alternative electro thing that was just starting to establish itself in the underground.

What originally set them apart wasn't an avant garde approach to pop music it was the thought provoking nature of their music and the intensity within which they presented it. So why did they feel it necessary to change styles so dramatically?

**Janszoon** · 03-02-2012, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

Why though? Sell me on Zooropa. I remember when it came out back in the day. We couldn't stop laughing and ridiculing the whole '....llllllLLLLEEEmmmoooonnn!' thing. It sounded like the ultimate shark jumping record, just a bunch of thought provoking rock dudes all of a sudden switching onto the alternative electro thing that was just starting to establish itself in the underground.

All of the sudden? Zooropa was very much the next logical step from the sound of Achtung Baby and was in fact written while they were on a break from touring for that album. It's clearly influenced by their collaboration with Emergency Broadcast Network during the Zoo TV tour, which I think is pretty neat, and is probably the album of theirs on which Brian Eno's presence is most noticeable, no doubt one of the reasons I like it so much. Also, the fact that they didn't seem to be taking themselves super-seriously anymore has always been a big plus for me.

Howard the Duck · 03-02-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

Why though? Sell me on Zooropa. I remember when it came out back in the day. We couldn't stop laughing and ridiculing the whole '....llllllLLLLEEEmmmoooonnn!' thing. It sounded like the ultimate shark jumping record, just a bunch of thought provoking rock dudes all of a sudden switching onto the alternative electro thing that was just starting to establish itself in the underground.

What originally set them apart wasn't an avant garde approach to pop music it was the thought provoking nature of their music and the intensity within which they presented it. So why did they feel it necessary to change styles so dramatically?

they already were thought to have jumped the shark with Achtung Baby

for me, Zooropa was a more realised version of that

it is innovative, the songwriting excellent, and only had 2 fillers at best (the 2 before the Cash collab)

FYI, i dislike The Joshua Tree intensely - repetitive and monotonous

FETCHER. · 03-02-2012, 09:44 AM

@clancy

I work with a guy who seen them during their biggest tour or something and he was a massive U2 fan back in the day. He said they were terrible and wouldn't waste his money on another gig.

sopsych · 03-04-2012, 10:46 AM

The Joshua Tree is a very overrated album. "I Still Haven't Found..." sums up why.

**Janszoon** · 03-04-2012, 05:53 PM

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The Joshua Tree is a very overrated album. "I Still Haven't Found..." sums up why.

In what sense?

Yield Bitch · 03-05-2012, 03:09 AM

Now I don't really know whether he is considered overrated, however:

I absolutely detest Sammy Haggar, first he ****s up Van Halen by replacing David Lee Roth, then he co-joins with one of my favorite guitarists (Joe Satriani) and writes cheesy lyrics for the mediocre superband Chickenfoot. (I wish these guys would take lessons from Them Crooked Vultures really)

It just seems like everything this guy touches musically slowly dies and becomes lame.

sopsych · 03-05-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

In what sense?

"I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" is boring and pretentious. Some of the downbeat songs from Pop have the same problem.

03-05-2012, 03:09 AM	#9 (permalink)
Yield Bitch Groupie Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Denmark Posts: 17	Now I don't really know whether he is considered overrated, however: I absolutely detest Sammy Haggar, first he ****s up Van Halen by replacing David Lee Roth, then he co-joins with one of my favorite guitarists (Joe Satriani) and writes cheesy lyrics for the mediocre superband Chickenfoot. (I wish these guys would take lessons from Them Crooked Vultures really) It just seems like everything this guy touches musically slowly dies and becomes lame. __________________ The 60's was the best period for rock and soul the 70's was the best period for progressive and psychedelic the 80's was the best period for dance music and metal the 90's was the best period for alternative and punk ...the 00's was the best period for compilation albums

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sopsych Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: indoors Posts: 722	The Joshua Tree is a very overrated album. "I Still Haven't Found..." sums up why.