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Beach Boys, The 10 23.26%
Fall of Troy, The 8 18.60%
Smashing Pumpkins, The 8 18.60%
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Old 04-23-2008, 07:11 PM   #21 (permalink)
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but back in the 90's they were important and making great guitar dominant rock music.
Them and 200 other bands.

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Siamese dream is as important an album in the 90's as 'Nevermind' 'Loveless' and 'Odelay'
Loveless and Odelay were important for their creativity and originality, neither Nevermind and Siamese Dream had that. Nevermind was important for its Impact and if you think Siamese Dream had anywhere near the impact Smells Like Teen Spirit did then you need to get your head checked.
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Them and 200 other bands.



Loveless and Odelay were important for their creativity and originality, neither Nevermind and Siamese Dream had that. Nevermind was important for its Impact and if you think Siamese Dream had anywhere near the impact Smells Like Teen Spirit did then you need to get your head checked.
a bit of over-analysis there based on what I posted but I understand what you said.

Just because you hate Pumpkins songs or you think Billy Corgan is an egotistical jerk does not take away from their impact on 90's music

Siamese Dream is an album that is not out of place being next to Nevermind in your record collection.
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a bit of over-analysis there based on what I posted but I understand what you said.
If we're going to argue music yes I'm going to analyze what you say particularly if it's moronic.

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They really didn't have much, they were your typical 90s "alternative" guitar band.

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Nsync was popular in the 90s too.
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rather them than Fall Of troy
I should beat your ass.
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They really didn't have much, they were your typical 90s "alternative" guitar band.



Nsync was popular in the 90s too.
you're just being stupid now and even resorting to insults

and really all you're showing me is your personal disdain for the band
nothing you're saying is refuting my assertion regarding Smashing Pumpkins.
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you're just being stupid now and even resorting to insults

and really all you're showing me is your personal disdain for the band
nothing you're saying is refuting my assertion regarding Smashing Pumpkins.
I insulted your opinion not you and you turned around and called me stupid after criticizing me for something you completely misinterpreted. Good job.

It's moronic to suggest that a typical 90s album like Siamese Dream belongs next to something like Odelay which is the farthest thing from typical. You've offered no argument here other than you think Siamese Dream is as impacting as Nevermind which is ridiculous. Perhaps before whining that I'm not doing enough refuting you should give me more to refute.
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At least the Fall of Troy have originality and talent going for them what do the Smashing Pumpkins have? Oh shit music!
The Smashing Pumpkins >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Fall of Troy.

And originality does not a better album make, I certainly don't see how The Pumpkins were unoriginal anyway, I can't think of anyone that sounded like them at the time.

And Siamese Dream is so much better than Odelay its not even funny.
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The Smashing Pumpkins >>>>>>>>>> The Fall of Troy.
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Smashing Pumpkins would have been my next choice, because they are one of top 10 favorite bands of all time. You already obsess yourself with insulting everyone else on that list, I think I have the right to be defensive.

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I insulted your opinion not you and you turned around and called me stupid after criticizing me for something you completely misinterpreted. Good job.
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It's moronic to suggest that a typical 90s album like Siamese Dream belongs next to something like Odelay which is the farthest thing from typical. You've offered no argument here other than you think Siamese Dream is as impacting as Nevermind which is ridiculous. Perhaps before whining that I'm not doing enough refuting you should give me more to refute.
You'd put The Velvet Underground and Nico up with say Rubber Soul or Pet Sounds wouldn't you?

well you bloody should do anyway

now the latter 2 are hardly as innovative and experimental as the Velvets but they are still marvellous albums that are held in just as high esteem and by a lot of people maybe even higher

but they are 3 albums that are completely different just like Odelay, Siamese Dream and oh I dunno something like '69 Love Songs'

innovation and originality is always revered but just because a band is able to make a tremendous record despite being (like you stated) like 200 other bands shouldn't mean they are regarded as an inferior artist.

In fact it can sometimes say more for a band if they can clearly stand out from their contemporaries.
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