"quite honestly i don't have enough knowledge of hip hop to judge"
Then why did you? lol

No big deal really, just didn't sound right. :p:

Ever heard that saying 'I don't know much about art but I know what I like'

That's pretty much what I meant :)

Didn't he say once that he was Jesus or something to that affect?

He'd have such a low opinion of himself to compare himself to a deity ?

Nooooo not someone as modest as him.

Is there an opening in the lions den bit?

Well Rolling Stone did, sorta

http://www.freewebs.com/meghancolbou...3401241959.jpg

Don't know about Jesus but I can see Satan on that cover

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...3401241959.jpg

I was thinking more the one to the right.

If you really want to impress me with you new found realisation that you want to be taken seriously as an artist then how about doing it in a way that would actually produce something that would show it. How about writing a sequel to Tales From Topographic Oceans? ON YOUR OWN.

I won't listen to it but i'll give you props for the effort.

Agreed, agreed and agreed. I'm just saying that the southern rock post with its musings about the culture somewhat illustrates the context of this post here. ;)

CCR was great. They're not Southern rock, either, though. They're from Oakland, California! Okay, so maybe style is what counts, but I think of them more as Americana...like Violent Femmes or the Doobie Brothers, it was really a combination of American folk, country and rock.

Infanticide is your friend. ;)

^ I'm on it!

Good call on the football songs too.

Football games killed "Start Me Up" by the Rolling Stones for me.

You missed the best soccer song. And one of the great songs of the Britpop era.

American football songs never explicitly refer to football. I guess you could say they're more arena rock and classic rock than anything else. I hate them as much as anyone else. Some examples:

Zombie Nation - Kernkraft 400
Neil Diamond - Sweet Caroline
Journey - Don't Stop Believing
Bon Jovi - Livin on a Prayer
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Sweet Home Alabama

They suck, and yeah.

I love Mike Myers when he has to start talking again, and even when they cut to Chris Tucker, even Smokey is like, "damn your crazy"



Awesome; But seriously give a Black Man a chance.



He's so creative.

There seems to be a new found love-fest for all things vinyl over the past couple of year.

Count me out please.

Frankly I was glad to see the back of it. When I first started working part time as a kid in the late 80s CD's cost double , sometimes almost triple what it cost to buy the same album on vinyl , so naturally with my minimal part time schoolboy wages buying CDs wasn't an option. I could have bought cassettes but they got lost & chewed up easily so vinyl I was forced with for a few years. They were big , bulky , impractical and sounded like shit after a few months of being exposed to a teenaged me.
As far as I was concerned getting my first CD player (In 1991) couldn't come quick enough and when I did all my vinyl was quickly shut away in my parents shed where it remained for the next 16 years untouched before being thrown away. That's just how much I missed it.
Music should be heard and quite honestly i'd take CDs or MP3s over vinyl anyday. I don't buy this argument that somehow buying a vinyl copy makes it more authentic. I want music in a format where I can listen to it with ease whenever I please , I don't buy it to make it look pretty sitting on a shelf.
It's been said that vinyl has a superior sound quality than a CD. Well , I've been having my eardrums assaulted by Motorhead since the age of 5 , it makes absolutley no difference to me whatsoever.
Vinyl - Nice to look at , but for me totally useless and outdated.

Some things sound better on vinyl, like jazz.

How many indie kids does it take to screw in a lightbulb?





























Hey I have that joke on vinyl!

My vinyl collection pretty much only consists albums that were only released on vinyl. I'm thinking that makes it worse...

Hahaha I love this thread so much..... Cant really find fault with too many of the posts yet......

Vinyl has better fidelity when new, since it's analog. So the sound wave is captured continuously, whereas digital, as a bunch of numbers, approximates the sound wave. Of course, A. the approximation is pretty damn good and very hard to hear the difference and B. vinyl swiftly loses fidelity over repeated playings as the needle distorts the grooves.

So, vinyl might be marginally better sound quality for a few months to a year (depending on your listening patterns), but CDs are better after that.

The "wave of the future" is digital music files. basically MP3s wih higher sampling rates, and thus higher fidelity. CDs are limited in fidelity by their sampling rate which doesn't allow them to reproduce the entire harmonic spectrum of the music. Vinyl, which as minstrel noted is technically superior to CD's, depreciates in fidelity the more frequently its played and also requires a $$$$ sound system to really even notice the difference.

With Southern Rock it all depends, love CCR if they count, I like Allman Bros and Skynyrd too.

I don't think theres anything wrong with rock bands being a little country. Country artists being a little rock however, THAT is a problem.

buying vinyl makes more sense than buying cd's at this point... plus it's a way to support the artist. and nothing beats the hiss and crackle of vinyl, it's just so authentic. us new kids have to cling to the past because the present is shit.

Buying anything nowadays is pointless, you could download anything for free and hell, mp3s are everywhere now, just about every song ever recorded is on youtube now anyway.

As Heavy Metal was my first musical love in, I have to disagree about vinyl. There is nothing like a gatefold sleeve with great artwork and readable sleeve notes and YES in terms of say Jazz and Rock the sound quality is better. Sure they are cumbersome but vinyl was a big part of my formative years and I sincerely regret getting rid of my vinyl years ago.

MP3' sure are easier to carry around but the quality will always suffer and I can definitely hear compression in them and I'm not being a stuck up audiophile. If you are a music lover then (money permitting) you should listen to music on the best possible kit you can buy and in the best possible format too.

You'd think so, and it might be true for many/most. I find, however, that I want the physical artifact of the album, for artists/albums that I consider great. There's something to the physical collection that isn't replicated entirely by an external hard drive packed with mp3s.

Though, that is another form of collecting and fun in its own right. I just don't find one to be a replacement for the other.

I always hear from the progheads that vinyl is supreme.

I have a bunch of vinyl records my bro gave me but I don't have a record player. Then again most of the records I have is 80s arena rock like Journey and Asia. :laughing:

The only vinyl I have are my dad's thirty-year-old records (which actually aren't in bad condition or bad records to begin with). His old Pioneer phonograph player is pretty good too, with an awesome surround system to accompany it.

I couldn't collect vinyl myself, but I could see how someone could appreciate them.

I used to collect a fair bit of vinyl, mostly Smiths stuff, until my record player broke. May have been a good thing considering how expensive it all was, but it was quite handy in listening to b-sides that i hadn't heard before.

Steve Earle is NOT a problem.

I was thinking more along the lines of country pop.

You should be burned at the stake for such blasphemy! :(

You're starting to "moderator running hall of fame" Urban.

Anti-Vinyl? How? What's next...

Vastly over rated ^

It is if you are into asphyxiation erotica.

^vastly UNDERrated

About as funny as that annoying friend you have that insists on singing along with songs in a stupid voice and changing the lyrics so that they're 'funny'.

C'mon now, its not like Weird Al, they actually write their own songs and their parodies are pretty spot on.

I actually liked Tenacious D for a period of time...then it swiftly passed. Urban's right, he's an irritating twat.