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Old 12-25-2008, 09:34 AM   #81 (permalink)
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I appreciate that and i'm pleased about that but I also think MB could be even better and get more members on board with a few tweaks. I have been on a few other forums that recommend some great tunes and I would love MB to be that but as we stretch ourselves so wide, I don't know if it will ever happen.
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Old 12-25-2008, 10:01 AM   #82 (permalink)
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Old 12-25-2008, 10:39 AM   #83 (permalink)
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alright so I finally read through the entire thread.

MB doesn't cater well to the smaller genres, Reggae I feel for, but what we should ask these people to do is post some youtube of their favorite stuff. I'd review it then, but Metal is a different animal.

Metal is generally self-insular. I think the guy picked at random who listens to Reggae would listen to some other things.

I think when picked at random, most metal guys are more inclined to listen to mostly metal-like genres. (I fully expect someone to champion the outliers on this one)

My biggest problem with musicbanter is that we "reform" too many people. If you showed up here listening to utter trash, like so many of our newbs do, you do one of two thigns. Leave or conform.

The biggest problem is the conformity because it never seems to leave. I feel strongly that a great many posters don't express their honest opinions. You don't come here listneing to Trapt and within three months find nothing wrong with anything David Bowie's ever done.

What I suspect is happening is that kids looking for acceptance leanr the score and what to remain on the inside. You see a huge disparity from the younger ones and the older ones (age wise) in how they approach their favorite acts.

I look at Urbans avatar, and then I look at comments by dac and Sweet_Nothing saying "they'd smack someone in the face if they talked smack about Radiohead"

Call it what you want, but I think its at the very least indicative of the problem around here. There is a terible fear of saying someone you don't like isn't good, theres a bigger of fear of thinking an artist you like has done something ****ty, musically.

Thats my .02 cents

Edit: I gave too little to the reggae point. What I mean to say is that we're not going to explore all of reggae in 3 days, but have them give us common ground to start from. at least at that point we can have a conversation with them.
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Old 12-25-2008, 10:53 AM   #84 (permalink)
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No that isnt it. We CAN'T cater to the smaller genres because not enough listen to it. I only used that as an example and I personally have done my utmost to promote reggae but it's just not big enough to draw people in, so maybe we should ditch a few forums and up the ante on our strengths?

Metal is definitely insular. I spent my youth exclusively in that genre and realised that at an early age. I'm am pertaining to the fact that we have a metal forum so new members join expecting debate and usually get fired off or leave which is understandable but disappointing too. I guess I wish that everyone could be like myself and just listen to everything but that won't happen.

As for kid's looking for acceptance-virtually everyone under 20 is looking for acceptance and in many cases many over that age, and that is an understandable trait but you are right in the fact that this is also to the detriment of individualism in may cases.

I Know that this thread is ultimately my own personal rant at not Just aspects of MB but listening habits on a whole, I do however feel that there are not enough well thought out opinions voiced on MB which is a crying shame. Except you Big3. Kudos to you.
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Old 12-25-2008, 11:28 AM   #85 (permalink)
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I'm going to pretend that those comments were sincere; thank you.

With regard to Reggae, I know I have only a small amount of time during the week where I'm able to listen to music period. I don't dislike Reggae but its one of those things where I would have to put in a considerable amount of work to know what to listen to during those two hours on monday night when I can hear things.

My suggestion might be to take Metal and make it its own forum. If its insular, let it be insular but I don't think we should drop the banner of musical expansion, especially with a genre that needs it more than others.

How about a "thing of the week" feature on the site where, featured prominently at the top of the page we have a few videos up there for viewing. Not comment, but viewing. If people should find their way to listening to more, viewing that forum, or making a thread, so be it. But I don't know if its wrong to feature an act each week. Downloads to me are quite a bit of work, I'm on a 7 year old computer with no room left for anything and the lurking visage of viri everywhere.

I think these guys pining for uploaded files forget that not everyones working on an Alienware laptop.

The kids are kids, and I won't lie, I ****ing hate them. They make me hate this site, they do nothing but make humorless, inside-jokes at one another with leet speak but most folks frown on genocide. Maybe I'm still sore from my witchhunt when I was a mod. No, I'm definitely still sore. In 3 years well see who comes around.
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Old 12-25-2008, 11:43 AM   #86 (permalink)
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A 'Topic Of The Week' if you will, is a good idea in theory but in practice it would need continual upkeep. However there is a germ of an idea there for sure.
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Old 12-25-2008, 12:06 PM   #87 (permalink)
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Ill run it out of my blog until it takes off.
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Old 12-25-2008, 12:08 PM   #88 (permalink)
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I'll assist with moderation;

In fact what if we put it in Editors pick?
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Old 12-25-2008, 12:12 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Well the thing is, there aren't supposed to be comments on the videos, there in existance to experience a kind of music and then explore that in our given forums.

This is just the idea in my head, I'm more than accepting of suggestions or changes. What do you think?

Should we allow comments?
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Old 12-25-2008, 02:49 PM   #90 (permalink)
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What I suspect is happening is that kids looking for acceptance leanr the score and what to remain on the inside. You see a huge disparity from the younger ones and the older ones (age wise) in how they approach their favorite acts.

I look at Urbans avatar, and then I look at comments by dac and Sweet_Nothing saying "they'd smack someone in the face if they talked smack about Radiohead"
That was a rather sarcastic quote by Sweet_Nothing that you are referring to. Not everyone is going to be able to handle adversity like jackhammer. Some people, myself sometimes included, are just gonna be pissed if you say some bands are bad.
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