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TumorAttitude 04-17-2009 01:42 PM

Stone Temple Pilots or Pearl Jam
 
Yeah, wondering. I assumed no one else has asked this (or asked it very recently).

I say STP. Scott Weiland is a stupid little heroin man, but he can do no wrong in my eyes, because of his awesome songwriting.

And Pearl Jam's vocals make me die inside.

Janszoon 04-17-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TumorAttitude (Post 640247)
And Pearl Jam's vocals make me die inside.

LOL. Ironic considering when STP first came out a lot of people accused Weiland of ripping of Eddie Vedder's style.

Anyway, Pearl Jam made one good album and STP made zero so I'll have to go with Pearl Jam on this one.

ChiliColdBlood 04-17-2009 02:03 PM

Definitely Pearl Jam. STP are okay, but they'll never be Pearl Jam.

Big Al 04-17-2009 02:56 PM

I am voting for Pearl Jam for two reasons.

1 They have repeatedly tried to tour and do shows without the use of ticket master screwing fans out of a decent priced ticket. This carries over now to every type of art entertainment. Of coarse it never worked but the thought has got to count for something right?

2. They have A LOT more solid albums out than STP. They have always been stuck with to many fillers and such on all albums, while the Jam typically produces a solid album through and through.

jackhammer 04-17-2009 03:12 PM

How about I troll and say that both are crap except for one STP song :D

TumorAttitude 04-17-2009 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 640306)
How about I troll and say that both are crap except for one STP song :D

Which one?

adidasss 04-17-2009 03:53 PM

Pearl Jam, they actually survived grunge and made some solid albums post 1995. :\

boo boo 04-17-2009 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 640319)
Pearl Jam, they actually survived grunge and made some solid albums post 1995. :\

^ What he said.

Let me tell you guys something, I know the lot of you hate Pearl Jam, a lot. But I don't know how anyone cannot at least give them some credit, they're the only grunge band (next to The Melvins) that's managed to last this long, the only band to not be forever limited by the "grunge" brand, they took their risks, they have kept their fanbase while keeping a relatively low profile, told ticketmaster to go f*ck themselves. Surely that's more admirable than Scott Weiland, other than aping other grunge singers for so long, his greatest claim to fame is simply being the guy most people first think of when "flamboyant herion junkie rock star" comes to mind. Be sure to catch the guy on VH1's Celebrity Rehab sometime in the future.

Janszoon 04-17-2009 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 640360)
Let me tell you guys something, I know the lot of you hate Pearl Jam...

You've noticed that they're winning in the poll, no?

boo boo 04-17-2009 04:33 PM

I think I may have been gone from the music forum a little too long.

TumorAttitude 04-17-2009 04:36 PM

Pearl Jam IS winning.....
Its the appocolypse.

Or my taste sucks by standards...

Bella! 04-17-2009 04:38 PM

Pearl Jam. only decent song that come to my recollection was "even flow" or maybe "last kiss".

never cared for STP. :D

boo boo 04-17-2009 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TumorAttitude (Post 640376)
Pearl Jam IS winning.....
Its the appocolypse.

Or my taste sucks by standards...

Dude how can you diss Pearl Jam while clamoring over a band whose most well known song is a downright imitation of Pearl Jam? STP's whole discography is pretty much just a variety of Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains and Soundgarden copycat songs. They still have some good stuff, don't get me wrong, but they're one of the most unoriginal bands ever. Pearl Jam at least had an identity of their own.

I do like Post, and some of their other singles. But that's about it.

Antonio 04-17-2009 04:50 PM

can't decide, i like both

Janszoon 04-17-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bella! (Post 640381)
Pearl Jam. only decent song that come to my recollection was "even flow" or maybe "last kiss".

"Last Kiss" is a pretty faithful cover of the original so I wouldn't even really count that as a Pearl Jam song to be honest.

Flower Child 04-17-2009 05:15 PM

Although I am a big STP fan, Pearl Jam has quite an edge over STP in my opinion. Mainly because could be alot more flexible with their music. With Eddie Vedder's voice that can go from earthy to hardcore and everywhere in between and Mike McCready putting together some powerful guitar riffs they have been able to make a lot more fresh new music. Take "Drifting" and "Spin the Black Circle" for example. Two completely different approaches that Pearl Jam has taken, but yet coming from one band. It keeps me interested for sure. STP is just a little more predictable.

Freebase Dali 04-17-2009 06:03 PM

Pearl Jam necklace.

The Unfan 04-17-2009 06:20 PM

I actually like both bands but I voted Pearl Jam. I think they have a stronger and more diverse output. Granted that I'm the only person I know of who thinks highly of Riot Act.

TumorAttitude 04-17-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 640382)
Dude how can you diss Pearl Jam while clamoring over a band whose most well known song is a downright imitation of Pearl Jam? STP's whole discography is pretty much just a variety of Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains and Soundgarden copycat songs. They still have some good stuff, don't get me wrong, but they're one of the most unoriginal bands ever. Pearl Jam at least had an identity of their own.

I do like Post, and some of their other singles. But that's about it.

I dunno, theres just something that makes them so totally unbiasedly DIFFERENT.

I hear the Nirvana in "Purple", yeah.

4ZZZ 04-18-2009 01:15 AM

I have never knowingly heard a song by either group. The names of some of the more "famous" groups that get bandied around sometimes seem to have passed me by. I feel very sheltered sometimes.

Janszoon 04-18-2009 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 4ZZZ (Post 640632)
I have never knowingly heard a song by either group. The names of some of the more "famous" groups that get bandied around sometimes seem to have passed me by. I feel very sheltered sometimes.

Wow. Seriously?

4ZZZ 04-18-2009 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 640635)
Wow. Seriously?

Yes. I have only listened to community radio over the years and have rarely watched music shows on TV. I have tried to always do my own research on music. It is just more fun and, just quietly, I like to not be told what I should and should not listen to. Both these groups, and there are plenty more, have passed me by. I always find it funny that people post about pop groups being famous, fodder for the music masses etc but I find these groups the same in an odd type of way. Don't get me wrong they are no doubt very good but I just kinda head in my own direction.

The funny thing is that I do eventually hear a famous group and wonder why they passed me by. Example being Blur. Bloke I knew insisted that I listen to 13. He never usually pushed albums so I thought I had better. It was a revelation. Brilliant record. So I ended up giving a few more Blur albums a listen and found them very enjoyable to the point that I rate them highly and even got hold of Gorillaz.

Janszoon 04-18-2009 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 4ZZZ (Post 640640)
Yes. I have only listened to community radio over the years and have rarely watched music shows on TV. I have tried to always do my own research on music. It is just more fun and, just quietly, I like to not be told what I should and should not listen to. Both these groups, and there are plenty more, have passed me by. I always find it funny that people post about pop groups being famous, fodder for the music masses etc but I find these groups the same in an odd type of way. Don't get me wrong they are no doubt very good but I just kinda head in my own direction.

The funny thing is that I do eventually hear a famous group and wonder why they passed me by. Example being Blur. Bloke I knew insisted that I listen to 13. He never usually pushed albums so I thought I had better. It was a revelation. Brilliant record. So I ended up giving a few more Blur albums a listen and found them very enjoyable to the point that I rate them highly and even got hold of Gorillaz.

Well, I'm not much of a fan of either Pearl Jam or Stone Temple Pilots (I really dislike STP in fact) but if you care about music history at all like I do you may want to give both of them a bit of a listen at some point since they're two of the biggest rock bands of the 90s and were, for better or worse, very influential.

4ZZZ 04-18-2009 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 640643)
Well, I'm not much of a fan of either Pearl Jam or Stone Temple Pilots (I really dislike STP in fact) but if you care about music history at all like I do you may want to give both of them a bit of a listen at some point since they're two of the biggest rock bands of the 90s and were, for better or worse, very influential.

Yeah I understand their influence. Like I said just kinda all passed me by. But I should at some stage give them a listen. Just too much out there.

boo boo 04-18-2009 02:51 AM

STP is on the radio all the time, just turn one on and you'll find them.

I must admit I thought Plush was the most awesome song ever when I first heard it.

4ZZZ 04-18-2009 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 640660)
STP is on the radio all the time, just turn one on and you'll find them.

Not on my radio mate:)

Janszoon 04-18-2009 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 640660)
I must admit I thought Plush was the most awesome song ever when I first heard it.

God, I hated it from the first moment I heard it. And it only went downhill from there as I subsequently heard it millions of times.

Janszoon 04-18-2009 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Is it me or does every STP song ever have the word "yesterday" in it?

:laughing:

Weiland is totally living in the past man.

adidasss 04-18-2009 03:28 AM

I was pretty obsessed with Core in the mid 90's and still rate it as one of the best albums ever (I can't really be objective at this point, I've heard it too many times), but I haven't heard any of their other albums...:laughing: I remember being really unpleasantly surprised with "Sour girl" (I totally skipped Purple and judging by Interstate love song, which I've just heard for the first time, I guess I'm not missing much). I think Sour girl pretty much put me off from exploring their other output...I just didn't want anything to ruin the brilliance of Core...:\

Edit: I'm just listening to Plush and I can't believe how much they sound like Pearl Jam. Why didn't I notice this before?

Crackerman is still a kick ass song...(:

FireInCairo 04-18-2009 05:50 AM

They're both tumors on music.

mr. goth glam 04-18-2009 06:21 AM

Pearl Jam.

Easily.

I don't give a damn about how anyone else here feels about them. I've been a fan for almost fifteen years, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

STP, however, I've never liked, so, you know, take that however you want.

(Shrugs)

Janszoon 04-18-2009 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 640678)
Edit: I'm just listening to Plush and I can't believe how much they sound like Pearl Jam. Why didn't I notice this before?

I don't know. That was definitely the big gripe against them when that album came out.

jackhammer 04-18-2009 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TumorAttitude (Post 640318)
Which one?

Heaven and Hot Rods.

boo boo 04-18-2009 03:20 PM

Ha I called Core Post earlier.

Someway, somehow, I managed to get Bjork and STP confused.

soothsayer 04-18-2009 03:36 PM

I voted STP. Lots of people that still accuse STP of sounding like Pearl Jam only heard a couple of songs from their first album and then wrote them off. They developed a pretty original, diverse sound later on and have a couple of really great songs. They have some HORRIBLE songs, don't get me wrong, but I think a lot of people didn't give them a chance.

Then again, I never got into Pearl Jam at all besides they're early stuff, so if Pearl Jam's later albums sound like STP's last three, then please inform me so i don't sound like a fool :).

Also keep in mind i used to be a huge fan and i have a certain nostalglia for them, that somewhat overshadows any bad songs that they've put out, as well as Weiland's horrible personality.

Janszoon 04-18-2009 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 640822)
Heaven and Hot Rods.

That's really the only song I like by them as well. On a related note, I liked that Weiland solo song "Lady, Your Roof Brings Me Down" also.

Brad Stengel 04-19-2009 02:09 AM

After 'core' STP doesn't really sound anything like Pearl Jam. Look at 'Lady Picture Show' for example (Their best song).

STP/Core vs. PJ/Ten

Although I hate both, Ten eeks out because I dont hate EVERY SONG, as opposed to STP's first album.

STP/Purple vs. PJ/Vs.

I'm gonna go with STP since Purple is more solid. Vs., other than the hits is a lame album.

STP/Tiny Music vs. PJ/Vitalogy

This is tough cos they're both the only albums I like from these bands. I'm sticking with Pearl Jam since the song 'Corduroy' is an overlooked 90's gem (overlooked by, like, hipsters, not mainstream radio, of course)

All_Tomorrows_Parties 04-19-2009 05:40 PM

Pearl Jam definitely has more solid albums, but STP was a very good singles band. And the comparison between the two bands really ends after Core. I honestly could never mistake anything STP did after that for Pearl Jam.

PleasantRidge 04-19-2009 05:43 PM

Pearl Jam, by far. But, they should have stopped after 2 albums. Ten and vs. are both excellent. Elderly Woman behind The Counter In A Small Town is maybe my favorite PJ song.

Anteater 04-19-2009 07:24 PM

Why couldn't it have been Velvet Revolver vs. Pearl Jam? Then this MIGHT have actually been interesting. :rofl:


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