dac

That's not what you were talking about.

I know.

There are a ton of bands in a huge variety of genres. I have no idea what you're talking about. What do you mean "I have little chance of seeing a great band that doesn't fit into certain genre lines live?" That makes no sense.

Great albums and bands come out every year. By chance, some years will be better than others. Oh well, nothing you can do about it. And you want a different "scene" (I'm interpreting this to mean genre, almost) in every city? Good luck with that lol.

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jacklovezhimself

haha I'm not really understanding what your point is.
There is TONS of music and there is a HUGE variety of it everywhere, constantly, all the time, 24/7. Just stick around MB for a while and you'll realize how dumb you were when you first came here.

Oh and no, the garage scene is not dead, in fact it's rising back.

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sidewinder

I think he means that every band out there fits into a certain genre. And he wishes he could see some bands live that don't fit into a certain genre. Something that will blow his mind. Make him say woah. Not that I understand the quest for this. The quest for woah, sure. But the quest for something unclassifiable. Nearly every time I make a new discovery I have a hard time saying whether it's this genre or that genre, because it crosses the line from one to another, blurring the line. Sure it may combine elements of various genres, so it's not truly original. But I think that's how new genres are born, probably since way back when. Maybe it was transparent then, you didn't hear about a lot of bands in the underground. Now there are a gazillion bands out there and the transition might seem smoother, less abrupt...you can't tell you're being wowed because it's happening bit by bit over time. I can see how this could be frustrating, I suppose. You want to be smacked, not rubbed gently.

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popsounds

You think I don't know this? The last three people I listened to on iTunes were Fela Kuti, Albert Ayler, and the Fall. What I'm trying to prove here is that my musical tastes are not somehow "narrow," which again, people are misinterpreting my statements as saying this. What I meant by "I have little chance of seeing a great band that doesn't fit into certain genre lines live" is that, though this is true for every era, it seems maximized lately: that if one wishes to see a band live - i.e., a band that currently plays and makes music, not one from history - the band tends to fit in a few categories - namely "indie," "metal," "emo," what have you. Yes, great bands come around in at least one of those genres (I'm not a big fan of metal, but I do respect some of the work), but what if someone wants to see an ol' fashioned loud blues band that actually knows how to play? Or if one wants to see a real non-bull**** country singer? Or a soul act not caught up in nostalgia? Not going to happen unless you live in a huge city, and even then, it'll be limited. What I'm saying is that it's all about diversity. Has this been different in any other decade? I don't know, I haven't been around that long. But even if it hasn't, I can hope it will happen.

No, again, you don't understand what I'm saying. I know that great albums and bands come out every year, but what I'm saying is that when a genre expands so much that it has little to do but burst, there creates this huge musical void, and I fear that that will come soon with the typical "indie" genre. And there is something we can do about it, a lot. You could start your own band, but not everybody's musically talented. Fans make music go round, and if there are fans who want great music, it'll happen. lol. This has been actually true for pretty much the entire history of rock until the internet and mass communication which has diminished the role of the rock community geographically, turning it into something going over oceans perhaps. I can't exactly say what this has done to the "quality" of music - probably little - but I do know that this has greatly reduced the role of the actualy city, the neighborhood, on bands, creating a lack of scenes - everyone becomes molded into one big amalgamated mess. Throughout that mess comes some great music, but I think it's possible to create some organization - useful organization, mind you - but organization nevertheless from this chaos, which, hopefully will reduce that "lag" period, caused when one genre goes and everyone's waiting for another to come in, causing, as I said, this void.

jacklovezhimself

so that's like a cool idea and all and I definitely know what your getting at now, but why put this under "Indie"? Is this genre at fault for all of your musical trauma?

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lucifer_sam

personally, i don't know what you're getting worked up over. the indie thing has been around for a few years or so, and it'll continue to be around a few years later, but it all falls within the broader scope of the changing face of music. and this pontification you're referring to? that's just a falsehood, the entire 'indie' label is just something that musicians use to work with emergent music fans. suggesting that it's a one-sided die is pretty silly; the whole concept of new music is to take existing styles and blend them until the boundaries for generalization become arbitrary and the distinction between genres fades. that is what encapsulates the beginning of new music.

and while you might consider there to be a 'lag' (which i don't really agree with at all), it's been years since music has entrenched itself in a particular style. what's out there today is one of the most diverse scenes in music.

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sleepy jack

yeah but wut about hendrix n stuff lol

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boo boo

Well I agree that Animal Collective are objectively the worst thing to happen to music in the past 20 years.

But nothing else you said really makes any sense. Nobody listens to The Stooges? The Stooges are shoved down peoples throats all the damn time. And they're a really popular band to rip off nowadays.

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TheBig3

These boards are rough on the new guys, so congrats on handling what will be the first of many hazings.

I would mention though, on topic, that indie folk is always going to box themselves into a corner. With the exception of Devenda Bandhart, I think everyone wants to be the love child of Nike Drake and Paul Simon even if that isn't immediatly apparent.

But indie is not subject to folk alone, and when it does get electronic it is, as someone pointed out in the original thread, some of the best music out there.

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TheBig3

They're a popular band here. People only get to the Stooges out there by way of Iggy, and since they stopped showing the cruise commercials with "lust for life" in them, iggy's not even that high profile.

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