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View Poll Results: How many albums do you have in your collection?
1-100 12 17.91%
101-200 6 8.96%
201-300 4 5.97%
301-400 2 2.99%
401-500 2 2.99%
501-600 0 0%
601-700 2 2.99%
701-800 2 2.99%
801-900 2 2.99%
901-1000 5 7.46%
1,001-2,000 17 25.37%
2,001-3,000 5 7.46%
3,001-4,000 6 8.96%
4,001+ 2 2.99%
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Old 12-06-2010, 06:55 PM   #31 (permalink)
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"own". As in 'have bought'?
I have a lot of music on my PC, but that doesn't really count, does it?
I have about 2000 albums on my PC, but I also have more than half of that in my record cabinet .
Physical albums:
1,001-2,000
1200 vinyl albums
300 CD albums
A couple of original cassettes and tapes.
And then I have some interesting compilation albums. No top 40 stuff, but things like Nuggets, Rubble, Studio One Scorcher, Colours of Funk etcetera.

I'm not including my classical vinyl. I have about 400 classical records but I'm not even sure what's on there. Still have to listen to those.
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Old 12-06-2010, 06:58 PM   #32 (permalink)
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"own". As in 'have bought'?
I have a lot of music on my PC, but that doesn't really count, does it?
I have about 2000 albums on my PC, but I also have more than half of that in my record cabinet .
Own as in how many is in your collection, digital or otherwise.
I kind of thought if people had a physical copy, they'd have it digital as well.
I know that's the case for me, any CDs I own are also in my iTunes.
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Old 12-06-2010, 07:08 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Old 12-06-2010, 07:47 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Own as in how many is in your collection, digital or otherwise.
I kind of thought if people had a physical copy, they'd have it digital as well.
I know that's the case for me, any CDs I own are also in my iTunes.
As downloading is legal here, I do own a lot of music I haven't actually bought.
I wouldn't consider that 'owning', that's why.

I mostly buy vinyl, so I download most of the albums I own as ripping a vinyl album is a lot more work than ripping a CD .

Edit: I'm the only person amongst my friends I know who has a digital copy of all the albums he owns. I don't think it's that common overhere
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Old 12-06-2010, 07:49 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Legally - less than 15
Illegally - near 1000 including EPs and a couple of bootlegs
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Old 12-06-2010, 07:51 PM   #36 (permalink)
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You can listen to it at will, it's on your computer at your fingertips, you can put it on an external hard drive, mp3 player so I class it as owning.
I'm thinking of starting a vinyl collection myself, I feel like there's more cons than pros.
What do you enjoy about having a vinyl collection?
Even if I buy albums on vinyl that I own digitally, nothing really changes for me.
I'm just buying a physical copy of something I already own.
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Old 12-06-2010, 08:05 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Well the collection itself is nice to look at.
It looks interesting in the same way that a case full of books an look interesting.
There's much variety in covers and size (7", 10", 12" and some weird abnormal sizes).
There's usually a lot of effort put into the cover and it really shows off.

But the main reason I'm collecting vinyl is because the music (apart from the unwanted noise which I really hate. I can't understand that there's people who actually say that crackles and pop are a part of the magic that is vinyl. I hate them. I also hate pepole who say that vinyl sounds good because it sounds warm. If it sounds warmer than your CD player, something's wrong) just sounds better.
It sounds more natural, there's more holograpic depth in the sound, it's more dynamic, the bass is a bit more 'loose', it's not as tiring to listen to, the top range is more transparent.
I can give you all the technical details but that will only result in endless discussions about distortion, channel seperation and background noise. We don't want that.
I really listen to vinyl because of the sound itself. And I just love the sleeves. A record feels more like a gain to me. I don't care so much about that plastic little box a CD is in.
Another good thing about vinyl: It's practically invulnerable. I received a pile of 90 records that had been in a garden for two years. Outside, in the rain. I have to clean them. I'd rather kill the owner, but hey. Eitherway, they're perfectly playable. The covers are of course damaged beyond repair, but the vinyl is just fine. Try that with a CD. And make a scratch of 1cm anywhere on a vinyl record. Play it. Most of it is fine. Try the same thing at the center of a CD. Play it. It won't.

Eitherway, digital will catch up sooner or later. I have a soundcard that can record 24 bits 192khz sound (a CD only does 16 bits 44.1khz) and I must say it gets really close to a vinyl record. But the CD we all know and use... It just isn't there yet.

And I should probably point out that I have a good, expensive yamaha CD player that I have modified so it sounds even better. And I can really enjoy the music that's on a CD.
But it's not up there with my record player, yet.

And then, it doesn't have to be expensive. Yes my record player is expensive. So is my phono preamplifier and my cartridge, but you can get a decent Technics turntable here for 40 dollars, put an Audio Technica AT95E cartridge in it, find a NAD PP2 preamp somewhere and enjoy audiophile quality for less than a hundred bucks.

Overhere, vinyl is actually 10-20% cheaper than CD's.

Got carried away again. Sorry.
Have I mentioned that I love vinyl?

Eitherway, back to your question: What's the cons? I can't see any.
Yeah, you have to get up every 22 minutes or so. I collect tapedecks for that .
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Good insightful post!
The cons are really the money aspect, I have to buy a record player and build up a collection.
Vinyl is more expensive over here than CDs.
You have side A and B, so I'd have to get up and turn it over.
I spend a lot of time on the computer, music is at my fingertips.
People in general have moved away from vinyl, and even away from CDs - it's all digital these days thus making it harder to get hold of vinyl I'd imagine.
I only know one store, which is in Piccadilly (the centre of town)
Space, it'll take up a certain amount of space.
And I can't listen to vinyl in the car, so I'm thinking is it worth building up my CD collection.
I have about 100 CDs and hardly any of them are favourite albums of mine.
Mostly stuff I used to be into, Appetite For Destruction for example.
If I never hear it again I wouldn't have any grievances.

The pros:
Even though it takes up space, it looks nice.
The sound may be better, but I have no idea because I've never actually heard a record being played. Well, not that I know of. - but even that's not a proper pro, because I don't know for sure.

So I'm really unsure about what to do.
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Old 12-06-2010, 08:32 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Good insightful post!
Glad you think of it that way

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The cons are really the money aspect, I have to buy a record player and build up a collection.
I'm not sure about where you live, but if you tell me where you'd like to buy yourself a player (craigslist? ebay?) I can provide you with some advise.

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Vinyl is more expensive over here than CDs.
A new CD here is about 15 dollars.
When you want to buy a CD by an old common band like The Eagles, Dire Straits, the CD will cost you about 7 dollars.
A new vinyl record (not some audiophile limited edition, just a regular one) is about 13 dollars. So yeah, it's cheaper. But that's probably because CD's are really expensive here.

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You have side A and B, so I'd have to get up and turn it over.
I spend a lot of time on the computer, music is at my fingertips.
I have most of my music at my fingertips and at my record player. Works for me. And as I said: I collect tapedecks. So I make mixtapes to solve that issue .
I have got a mix tape system now, you might want to check it out:
http://stijnkraft.ebenau.net/green/tapes/
Just click any of the tapes
I don't mind getting up every 22 minutes. You might, I don't know.
There's record players that can play both sides of the record, but they're usually not very serious.
In some cases the fact that the album is divided in two parts is actually adding something good.

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People in general have moved away from vinyl, and even away from CDs - it's all digital these days thus making it harder to get hold of vinyl I'd imagine.
I only know one store, which is in Piccadilly (the centre of town)
Not sure about that where you live. Here I can get pretty much everything on vinyl, new. I just go to my local store and order an album. There's more CD's there, too. But I just order what I want. No prob.
And then there's the internet. I mainly use velvetmusic.nl, bol.com and nlstore.nl, but that's of no use to you

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Space, it'll take up a certain amount of space.
The space it takes up in hight and width, it compensates for in thickness. It doesn't really matter that much

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And I can't listen to vinyl in the car, so I'm thinking is it worth building up my CD collection.
I have a Minidisc player in my car. And you can still download your records and put them on a CD. Or you could (which is really easy) just record the records to your PC.

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I have about 100 CDs and hardly any of them are favourite albums of mine.
Mmm... I have about 300 CD's.
I buy everything on vinyl. I only have like 25 albums on CD that I couldn't find on vinyl. The rest is mostly the same as I have on vinyl. I usually buy my CD's second hand for 2 or 3 dollars.

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Even though it takes up space, it looks nice.
Yes

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The sound may be better, but I have no idea because I've never actually heard a record being played. Well, not that I know of. - but even that's not a proper pro, because I don't know for sure.
Most of the time it won't sound better since most people don't know how to take care of their records and they use cheap ass plastic crap.
The record itself can sound better, but not without the proper equipment, of course

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So I'm really unsure about what to do.
All I can say is I'd like to advise you when (if...) you decide to buy a record player. If you don't like it, you can always sell it. That's the advantage of knowing what to buy and buying things second hand

The first thing I would throw out of the window in case of fire (after my cat and my backup HDD) is my record collection. I truly love it. I probably wouldn't rescue my CD's...
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Old 12-06-2010, 08:34 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I've only got bout 130, chipping away slowly at grabbing new ones.
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