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Old 01-14-2012, 10:36 AM   #71 (permalink)
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To the OP: Seems like you don't prejudge music based on how others feel about it. That's plenty good for my blood. You should also check out a tragic little fellow names Townes Van Zandt to widen that list of country artists.
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Old 01-14-2012, 03:34 PM   #72 (permalink)
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You mean Rihanna? All of the Lights is alright.

Devil in a New Dress, the other suggestion, I found a bit boring. Slightly different arrangement in the second half, but really sounds more of the same.
Whether it's Katy Perry or Rihanna, the moment either of their voices enters a song it's a "change the song or shoot me in the face" moment.

It sounds like I COULD try to get myself to give it another chance, but I don't see why I would want to do that to myself. If I have to fight myself to listen to something, and it's a chore, is it really worth doing? I'm quite happy hating this album. I also didn't really see any reasons in particular from you guys that I should. "Pristine pop" is nowhere near what I want. I abhor pop music. One thing I noticed that I didn't before is Bon Iver's involvement. I'm not really too into B.I. but that's cool. (It took just about every member of MusicBanter giving positive praise to the last albums to get me to even check it out)
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Old 01-14-2012, 05:20 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Whether it's Katy Perry or Rihanna, the moment either of their voices enters a song it's a "change the song or shoot me in the face" moment.

It sounds like I COULD try to get myself to give it another chance, but I don't see why I would want to do that to myself. If I have to fight myself to listen to something, and it's a chore, is it really worth doing? I'm quite happy hating this album. I also didn't really see any reasons in particular from you guys that I should. "Pristine pop" is nowhere near what I want. I abhor pop music. One thing I noticed that I didn't before is Bon Iver's involvement. I'm not really too into B.I. but that's cool. (It took just about every member of MusicBanter giving positive praise to the last albums to get me to even check it out)
I'm not into Bon Iver much at all, surface beauty sometimes but I hear not much else.

You abhor melody? Pop itself is way too general a term anyway, there can be pop or melodic based music in every genre.
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That's for you to decide, not us. Just be concerned with how music makes you feel, not what people think about the music you listen to. Music is personal and also universal, but what music does for you...well...only you can be the judge of that.

Some people listen to their music like they wear fashion, to let people know who they are or what they want to be, this is wrong. Music should be listened to for how it makes us feel not for the ego or public image.
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I'm not into Bon Iver much at all, surface beauty sometimes but I hear not much else.

You abhor melody? Pop itself is way too general a term anyway, there can be pop or melodic based music in every genre.
No I don't abhor melody. Melody is great, but not essential. I pretty much can't listen to pop top 40. I would say I can't listen to female pop singers, but, for example Alannis Morissette is all right in my book and I could name a couple others. It's not that...

I would say I can't listen to... there's a certain thing that is hard to pin down exactly, that I come to expect out of 99% of top40 popular music. I need music to be at least semi-intricate and/or have relatable lyrics. And I can't relate to songs by artists such as Kanye, Lady Gaga, Lil Wayne, Katy Perry, Justin Bieber, 50 Cent, Nickelback, etc. because there is nothing at all in it that I can enjoy, and they've had their chances. Not all of them, some more than others, but I've come to the conclusion. I can't get behind songs fit for the club, so to speak. At worst, it's that I can't get behind mindless music made for the sole purpose of money instead of art, but that's not true in every case either. I can't get behind 'just for fun music'? It's a hard feeling to describe but I hope I'm making sense.

I'm a poor, 24 year old, pot smoking, male with no girlfriend. I'm not into materialism, I'm a Simpleeeee kind of man. I can't get behind rap songs that are about ''gettin bitches, stackin paper", I can't get behind pop music that's about being a teenager in love/person in love because I'm not and don't know what that's about. I'm not into the money grab music. I'm not interested in chasing artists that are a passing fad and when society jumps on a bandwagon, like Drake, for example, and Lil Wayne before that, and so on back through time, I expect something good and get disappointed with more of the same recycled music we've been hearing out of top40 for the last few decades. Society overhypes garbage.

It's about being able to relate. And about the art of music. Something I can't seem to find in top40. Kanye West's MBDTF might have come close, but not close enough for me.
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Whether it's Katy Perry or Rihanna, the moment either of their voices enters a song it's a "change the song or shoot me in the face" moment.

It sounds like I COULD try to get myself to give it another chance, but I don't see why I would want to do that to myself. If I have to fight myself to listen to something, and it's a chore, is it really worth doing? I'm quite happy hating this album. I also didn't really see any reasons in particular from you guys that I should. "Pristine pop" is nowhere near what I want. I abhor pop music. One thing I noticed that I didn't before is Bon Iver's involvement. I'm not really too into B.I. but that's cool. (It took just about every member of MusicBanter giving positive praise to the last albums to get me to even check it out)
well, it's cool if you can't get into it - but your earlier comments sounded "prejudicial", from my perception

and no, I can't stand Bon Iver either
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That's for you to decide, not us. Just be concerned with how music makes you feel, not what people think about the music you listen to. Music is personal and also universal, but what music does for you...well...only you can be the judge of that.

Some people listen to their music like they wear fashion, to let people know who they are or what they want to be, this is wrong. Music should be listened to for how it makes us feel not for the ego or public image.
I agree. And I don't care less if people like what I like, I have complete confidence in what I like. And I can search for what I like, I'm not so lazy as to have to ask people for things that I might like.
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No I don't abhor melody. Melody is great, but not essential. I pretty much can't listen to pop top 40. I would say I can't listen to female pop singers, but, for example Alannis Morissette is all right in my book and I could name a couple others. It's not that...

I would say I can't listen to... there's a certain thing that is hard to pin down exactly, that I come to expect out of 99% of top40 popular music. I need music to be at least semi-intricate and/or have relatable lyrics. And I can't relate to songs by artists such as Kanye, Lady Gaga, Lil Wayne, Katy Perry, Justin Bieber, 50 Cent, Nickelback, etc. because there is nothing at all in it that I can enjoy, and they've had their chances. Not all of them, some more than others, but I've come to the conclusion. I can't get behind songs fit for the club, so to speak. At worst, it's that I can't get behind mindless music made for the sole purpose of money instead of art, but that's not true in every case either. I can't get behind 'just for fun music'? It's a hard feeling to describe but I hope I'm making sense.

I'm a poor, 24 year old, pot smoking, male with no girlfriend. I'm not into materialism, I'm a Simpleeeee kind of man. I can't get behind rap songs that are about ''gettin bitches, stackin paper", I can't get behind pop music that's about being a teenager in love/person in love because I'm not and don't know what that's about. I'm not into the money grab music. I'm not interested in chasing artists that are a passing fad and when society jumps on a bandwagon, like Drake, for example, and Lil Wayne before that, and so on back through time, I expect something good and get disappointed with more of the same recycled music we've been hearing out of top40 for the last few decades. Society overhypes garbage.

It's about being able to relate. And about the art of music. Something I can't seem to find in top40. Kanye West's MBDTF might have come close, but not close enough for me.
I'm not sure if you have to specifically relate to your own personal life with music, in fact people who do that could well be deceiving themselves anyway. The main thing is just to relate to the general feeling, whether of love, anger or whatever energy is being conveyed.

I think quite a lot of rock music is made for money and just for a niche market by being in a very limited style. So it's hard to just brandish modern western style chart music with that alone. Some rock music styles can definitely be about being a passing fad, maybe more than pop music really. And certainly some indie stuff can get very overhyped. As for music as fun, I think all music is meant to be fun, in that it is meant to be entertainment and something to stimulate our minds. Happy songs or sad songs can all be fun.
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