Is music streaming "enough"?

Paedantic Basterd · 06-18-2013, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Briks

Can you talk about how much you ABSOLUTELY LOVE a band if you have heard every single song they have released (by streaming or borrowing a record from a friend), but do not own any of their albums?

Yes, this is a foolish question. Materialism isn't a gauge of liking things. Couldn't you say that you loved Salvador Dali's or Picasso's work without ever owning a piece? Can you say that you love Thai food if you don't know how to cook it yourself? Can you love a book if you rented it from a library?

anathematized_one · 06-18-2013, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Yes, this is a foolish question. Materialism isn't a gauge of liking things. Couldn't you say that you loved Salvador Dali's or Picasso's work without ever owning a piece? Can you say that you love Thai food if you don't know how to cook it yourself? Can you love a book if you rented it from a library?

Exactly. It is not the physical album/book/painting that is loved, that is just a VEHICLE through which it is delivered, what is loved is the music/story/image.

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Chives · 06-18-2013, 10:17 PM

Getting physical copies of music is very important to me because going to record shops is where I get the majority of my social interaction. Maybe.

Mojo · 06-19-2013, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by duga

I've found I've been enjoying music a lot more since I got Spotify premium...even when traveling. I actually spend time the day before I have to leave somewhere deciding what albums I might want to listen to on the the trip. It actually makes my listening experience during that trip so much better. With my entire collection with me, I feel like I have so many options it's hard to figure out what I'm in the mood for. Having a limited selection helps me think about what I picked and I actually get excited to listen to them.

I do this all the time. I select the albums I want to listen to the night before, and then play them at college.

I was going to consider getting more memory for my phone, as I can maybe download around 6 or 7 playlists at a time, but this actually just forces me to listen to what I selected, even if in the meantime I went off the idea.

I like that.

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Yes, this is a foolish question. Materialism isn't a gauge of liking things. Couldn't you say that you loved Salvador Dali's or Picasso's work without ever owning a piece? Can you say that you love Thai food if you don't know how to cook it yourself? Can you love a book if you rented it from a library?

I agree with you but I think what makes that particular point a debate, is it OK to call yourself a fan of music and not buy any of it? There are artists I would say I was a fan of and yet I don't own any of their music. However, for me personally, theres a line. If I continue to get into that artist, and find myself liking their music and more, loving their music, adoring that band, I have to buy physical copies rather than continue to keep listening to the ones I stole.

Gavin B. · 06-19-2013, 08:40 AM

I'm perfectly happy to have all of my music in the MP3 format. I have my computer hooked up to my home stereo system and it's much easier to find a song or artist you're looking for using a home computer music player, rather than trawling through your collection of cds and vinyl albums to find that one certain song you want to listen to. I still have a roomful of thousands of cds and vinyl albums which I eventually will sell off when I find time to list them on Half.com.

With digital files can also place your entire digital music collection on a playlist and shuffle the content around to enhance your listening experience. With a cd player your limited playing a certain number of albums depending on the size of your cd player disc carousel. Many of the newer products are multi-function players that play both cds and MP3 files. But to use the MP3 function you still have to purchase the MP3 files at a music service and own a portable MP3 player in order to play digital music on a multi-function player.

7 or 8 years ago, I made a big mistake which resulted in the loss of my entire digital music collection when my computer crashed. It took me almost three years and thousands of dollars to restore all of the music I lost from the computer crash. I now subscribe to music services that allow you to redownload any MP3 file you've purchased from their service because I ended up having to repurchase many of the MP3 files I lost when my computer crashed.

The other big pain in the ass task that comes with maintaining a large library of MP3 music is transferring the all those music files to a new computer processor from your old computer processor whenever you purchase a new CPU. It took me a couple of months of working at least an hour a day to completely transfer all the digital music files from my old CPU to the new one I purchased last January.

I have no use for streaming music because of all of the use limitations imposed on streaming music. With streaming music, you can't burn home made cds or synch streaming music to a portable listening device. And when you eventually stop subscribing to a streaming music service, you automatically lose access to all of the streaming music service once provided you with.

anathematized_one · 06-19-2013, 09:45 AM

Well for me, I have a 1 TB external hard drive dedicated solely for my mp3 music library, so transfering is really easy.

As for me, I never want to sell my physical collection. If ever I end up with duplicates of a hasd to find album though, I will trade it off for something I don't have.

Then if you have an mp3 player, you can have thousands of albums with you at all times and can switch between them with speed and ease.

So having a physical collection tthat is totally unused (assuming nothing happens like your house burning down), you always have that perfect physical backup if something insanely improbable happened like the Internet perma-died everywhere or an apocalyptic event of some kind.

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Paedantic Basterd · 06-19-2013, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk

I agree with you but I think what makes that particular point a debate, is it OK to call yourself a fan of music and not buy any of it? There are artists I would say I was a fan of and yet I don't own any of their music. However, for me personally, theres a line. If I continue to get into that artist, and find myself liking their music and more, loving their music, adoring that band, I have to buy physical copies rather than continue to keep listening to the ones I stole.

Buying the music doesn't make you the fan in your example. You don't suddenly become one. You buy their music because you are a fan, and that is your way of expressing it.

Personally, I hesitate to call myself a fan of anything unless I'm madly in love with one album or really enjoy two or more of them*, but that's what being a fan feels like to me. I'm not going to tell anyone else whether or not they are fans of a thing.

* Coincidentally, I do own merchandise from these artists, but I do not consider that part of my subjective fan experience, because I am now too poor to pay for most artist-related goods, whether I love that artist or not.

sidewinder · 06-19-2013, 11:25 AM

I agree with those that said being a fan has nothing to do with whether you've supported the group financially or own anything in a physical format. Being a fan means you like and enjoy something. All else is irrelevant.

Mojo · 06-19-2013, 11:43 AM

I agree. But as I said, I'm fairly sure thats why this often gets presented as a debate.

Norg · 06-19-2013, 12:13 PM

I do it all ...

if its a band u really like im going to buy your CD

if its just some thing u discover on YT I might just convert the video to MP3

if it is just a couple of songs I might just buy them off ITunes or amazon

if I don't feel like paying then ill just torrent it

right now I just use spotiffy to discover new music and that's it

06-18-2013, 10:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
Chives Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 299	Getting physical copies of music is very important to me because going to record shops is where I get the majority of my social interaction. Maybe. __________________ [My last.fm] [My Tumblr]

06-19-2013, 08:40 AM	#15 (permalink)
Gavin B. Model Worker Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,248	I'm perfectly happy to have all of my music in the MP3 format. I have my computer hooked up to my home stereo system and it's much easier to find a song or artist you're looking for using a home computer music player, rather than trawling through your collection of cds and vinyl albums to find that one certain song you want to listen to. I still have a roomful of thousands of cds and vinyl albums which I eventually will sell off when I find time to list them on Half.com. With digital files can also place your entire digital music collection on a playlist and shuffle the content around to enhance your listening experience. With a cd player your limited playing a certain number of albums depending on the size of your cd player disc carousel. Many of the newer products are multi-function players that play both cds and MP3 files. But to use the MP3 function you still have to purchase the MP3 files at a music service and own a portable MP3 player in order to play digital music on a multi-function player. 7 or 8 years ago, I made a big mistake which resulted in the loss of my entire digital music collection when my computer crashed. It took me almost three years and thousands of dollars to restore all of the music I lost from the computer crash. I now subscribe to music services that allow you to redownload any MP3 file you've purchased from their service because I ended up having to repurchase many of the MP3 files I lost when my computer crashed. The other big pain in the ass task that comes with maintaining a large library of MP3 music is transferring the all those music files to a new computer processor from your old computer processor whenever you purchase a new CPU. It took me a couple of months of working at least an hour a day to completely transfer all the digital music files from my old CPU to the new one I purchased last January. I have no use for streaming music because of all of the use limitations imposed on streaming music. With streaming music, you can't burn home made cds or synch streaming music to a portable listening device. And when you eventually stop subscribing to a streaming music service, you automatically lose access to all of the streaming music service once provided you with. __________________ There are two types of music: the first type is the blues and the second type is all the other stuff. Townes Van Zandt

06-19-2013, 09:45 AM	#16 (permalink)
anathematized_one Music Addict Join Date: May 2013 Location: Someplace Awful Posts: 123	Well for me, I have a 1 TB external hard drive dedicated solely for my mp3 music library, so transfering is really easy. As for me, I never want to sell my physical collection. If ever I end up with duplicates of a hasd to find album though, I will trade it off for something I don't have. Then if you have an mp3 player, you can have thousands of albums with you at all times and can switch between them with speed and ease. So having a physical collection tthat is totally unused (assuming nothing happens like your house burning down), you always have that perfect physical backup if something insanely improbable happened like the Internet perma-died everywhere or an apocalyptic event of some kind. Sent from my SCH-S720C using Tapatalk 2 __________________ Sardonicus YouTube Channel

06-19-2013, 11:25 AM	#18 (permalink)
sidewinder Engorged Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,536	I agree with those that said being a fan has nothing to do with whether you've supported the group financially or own anything in a physical format. Being a fan means you like and enjoy something. All else is irrelevant. __________________ last.fm \| my collection on RYM \| vinyl instagram @allthatyouseeandhear I'd love to see your signature/links too, but the huge and obnoxious ones have caused me to block all signatures.

06-19-2013, 11:43 AM	#19 (permalink)
Mojo Melancholia Eternally Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Posts: 5,018	I agree. But as I said, I'm fairly sure thats why this often gets presented as a debate. __________________ Last.FM \| Echoes and Dust

06-19-2013, 12:13 PM	#20 (permalink)
Norg Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,344	I do it all ... if its a band u really like im going to buy your CD if its just some thing u discover on YT I might just convert the video to MP3 if it is just a couple of songs I might just buy them off ITunes or amazon if I don't feel like paying then ill just torrent it right now I just use spotiffy to discover new music and that's it Last edited by Norg; 06-19-2013 at 12:36 PM.