Soulflower

Yes it is because she has been accused and called out for not writing her songs and stealing credits from her own songwriters and inside industry folk.

So if this poster can provide an actual song that Rihanna has written by herself or help wrote, I would love to know!

Soulflower

Unapologetic (2012)

Loveee Song- Songwriters: Future, Rihanna, Blu June



Receipts...

In an interview for MTV News, Future spoke about his collaboration with Rihanna on her Loveee Song, "They wanted a more uptempo record, so I sent four or five records, and I left the last record. It was more like a ballad, and I left it."
Jay-Z Added Extra E’s To Rihanna’s ‘Loveeeeeee Song’ - MTV

So we know Future had already submitted this song to Rihanna. He had previously sent 4 or 5 COMPLETED songs as he claims. "Loveee Song" which was ORIGINALLY titled Love and Affection was already a completed song BEFORE Rihanna even recorded it!

So there is no way she wrote this song.


He further revealed that the original title of the song was "Love & Affection", however, Rihanna's mentor Jay-Z changed it to "Love Song" and added two additional 'e's becoming "Loveee Song".
Jay-Z Added Extra E’s To Rihanna’s ‘Loveeeeeee Song’ - MTV

So we see that Rihanna's people changed FUTURE'S original title from Love and Affection to "Loveee Song".

I wonder if that is how Rihanna stole this writers credit because she clearly did not participate in writing this song and she has a co- credit.



Seth Firkins recorded the music for "Loveeeeeee Song" together with Future's vocals at Triangle Studios in Atlanta, Georgia.Rihanna's vocals were recorded by Marcus Tovar and Kuk Harrell at Westlake Recording Studios in Los Angeles, California, while it was mixed by Manny Marroquin at Larrabee Studios in Burbank, California.
Jay-Z Added Extra E’s To Rihanna’s ‘Loveeeeeee Song’ - MTV

So we know that Rihanna and Future did not record the song in the same studio. They recorded the song in two seperate studios which further supports that Rihanna had no participation in writing this song since they did not need to record the song in the same studio.


Receipts continued

“The feel and vibe is nice, you couldn’t even tell that by listening to the song, you’d think that we was in the studio, we was around each other [or] we knew each other,” Future said of the song which he also produced, but Jay-Z named, insisting on having seven E’s in the title.

It’s not that the pair went in completely blind. “I talked to her, we had several conversations, but it wasn’t one of those situations,” he said. “I believe we connected in another way and like I said we just haven’t met each other yet so when we meet each other I don’t know how it’s gonna be, because the music is already a smash.
Rihanna And Future Never Met, But Share A Beautiful ‘Loveeeeeee Song’ - MTV

Okay so we now really see that her song writing credit is a stolen credit because she has never even meant Future!!!

So how could she have helped in writing the song if they have never even meant!?!?! If they have never even sat down together?!?!


And please people don't say Rihanna could have helped over the phone because Future already said the song was already completed when he submitted it to her.

The Batlord

Just because someone stole a song doesn't mean she doesn't write her own. That's just a blatant logical fallacy. You're the one who has made the claim that she doesn't write her own songs, so you're the one who has to prove that she doesn't. You've already knocked one down, now you just have seven more albums worth to go.

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Scarlett O'Hara

Read this and get back to me:

Pop Ate My Heart: Lady Gaga, Her Videos, and Her Fame Monster | The House Next Door | Slant Magazine

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Soulflower

Of course....... but this has happened more than one time and most of all her songwriters and producers always publicly discuss how her hits and songs are created.

I don't need to show evidence on every single song she has co credit to prove that because her songwriters have openly said that.

They always have claimed to have submitted her songs and writing her songs for her prior to her recording them. Its very public knowledge that she does not write her own songs. NONE of her songwriters or producers have ever publicly insisted, "Rihanna was apart of this song or Rihanna helped write this song"


My point was that her songs are completed when they are submitted before she records them.



Here is another example,

Rated R album (2009)

Rude Boy- Songwriters: Ester Dean, Mikkel S. Eriksen, Tor Erik, Hermansen, Makeba Riddick, Rob Swire, Rihanna

This is the demo/song that was written before Rihanna even recorded it.

Her is the songwriter's original demo


Rihanna's version


They sound exactly the same.

I won't lie and say I don't dance to her music when I am at the club either but... a songwriter she is not. An artist she is not.

Soulflower

Just because a singer gets a songwriting credit does not necessarily mean they are a songwriter or that they even participated in the process to create the song. A songwriter is someone who actually sits down with a pen and paper and writes songs. They don't have to necessarily write a song by them self but they at least have creative input in creating a song from scratch. Writing a song is the same as drawing a picture or sculpting a piece of art work. It takes time, inspiration and obviously.... talent.

In today's industry, multiple things are considered "songwriting" as far as credits and royalties are concerned. However, it does not mean they are the same in practical terms or what is understood to be songwriting. For instance, a singer can change one word around, give a song a different title or add a adlib and still get a credit despite not technically writing the song.

A pop star like Rihanna constantly puts out albums yearly while touring and promoting her self full time, leaving her any time to actually write a song from scratch herself. She has never publicly spoken about writing a song neither has her songwriters or producers for her albums.

Most pop stars of this era do this. Depending on how big they are they can get away with getting a songwriting credit especially if the songwriter wants their song to be on their album. At least Rihanna is not as bad as Beyonce, she is the absolute worst at this!

Dylstew

Could you please edit your posts instead of doubleposting? No offense.

Soulflower

An article that her camp more than likely wrote doesn't really prove anything.

Lady Gaga is a Madonna/David Bowie/Boy George copy cat. I never said she did not have talent but she most definitly is a gimmick.

The Batlord

At least she's better than Nicki Minaj.

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Soulflower

As far as actual talent, I agree.


Nikki has a nice flow. If she kept her clothes on and actually rapped about something worth while she would be okay.