1983-2000 Vs 2000-2017

Neapolitan · 06-06-2017, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Yes. And I respect that you like what you like.

Dinosaur and MBV have such different sounds that a band that combines them should be reasonably unique. I wish more bands copied Dinosaur. Have you heard Deafcult? I'll be damned if they don't have the MBV thing down to the letter. Not an original bone in their bodies but absolutely fantastic at what they do.

This band does remind me of Dinosaur Jr and MBV at times, at least on this track, I guess. If you don't think so I will settle to agree to disagree.

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What I gather from the comment section from pippygrape the date in the title is misleading, it's a 1981 recording. It kinda reminds me of Daydream Nation in its embryonic stage.
Rhys Chatham - Guitar Trio

OccultHawk · 06-06-2017, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle

it's definitely influential on my own pretentiousness

Well, I think Noosefiller has a very appealing mix of pretentiousness and humility. Pretentious enough to dare for enough novelty to illicit one's attention but humble enough to stay true to a genre potential fans have already come to love. I think Frown described it as black metal- I'm thinking more avant-garde metal but I know musicians often hate labels.

Of course, I'm going to take your music more seriously than your online persona here.

OccultHawk · 06-06-2017, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

to tie this in with politics idk if you're familiar with Foucault and his criticism of studying history in this progressive way

I'm embarrassed to admit it but I haven't read Foucault. Can you run the cliff notes by me or link me to a manageable summary of what you're talking about?

~~Dude111~~ · 06-06-2017, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

In terms of change isn't it pretty obvious that music saw more important evolutions from 83-00?

Yes the 80s were the MOST DESTRUCTIVE DECADE EVER

OccultHawk · 06-06-2017, 08:17 PM

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Do you think that makes it too ambiguous to directly challenge?

It would be for anyone I know irl but I think you're easily up to the task. **** man, I've been reading your take on music for some while now. You have a firm grasp on what's important in these time frames. Stian Westerhus and Colin Stetson are probably the two most apropos musicians I can think of for this introspection.

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It might not be so much a decline in innovation, but a dissipation of what people are being innovative in the face of. Not to mention that people can more easily discover a niche that their ideas fit into with the change in the spread of information. Before people could invent punk on opposite ends of the world and never know about each other. The way music distribution and listening is evolving, it's becoming easier to find your audience, which becomes more informed on similar artists to your sound as it grows. It goes the other way you influencing your contemporaries. Maybe that can contribute to creating prejudices of genre conventions in musicians where they simply would have been ignorant of them before. Two way street it looks like.

Excellent points. At my age that's a huge paradigm shift compared to what I grew up on.

OccultHawk · 06-06-2017, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I don't see a reason to feel anything about Islam itself

it's nothing but spiritual feelgood whoo without interpretation or some political motivation

You're an anarchist and an atheist, right? We have that much in common even if there's very little commonality in how we define these labels. I'm not not saying our definitions are different or similar I'm simply trying avoid offense through assumption.

But where I'm headed is how can you be cool with any ideology that demands the most extreme hierarchical submission there is to something that has no possibility of even being real. If that's not an anarchist atheist **** that I've never known one.

OccultHawk · 06-06-2017, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dude111

Yes the 80s were the MOST DESTRUCTIVE DECADE EVER

I do think rock'n'roll died in the 80s. Bands like Sonic Youth, Big Black, Butthole Surfers, and Swans made it a very beautiful and exciting death indeed.

Mondo Bungle · 06-06-2017, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Well, I think Noosefiller has a very appealing mix of pretentiousness and humility. Pretentious enough to dare for enough novelty to illicit one's attention but humble enough to stay true to a genre potential fans have already come to love. I think Frown described it as black metal- I'm thinking more avant-garde metal but I know musicians often hate labels.

Of course, I'm going to take your music more seriously than your online persona here.

Avant garde and industrial black metal

my new album is next level pretentious. Or at least the way I describe it is

Mondo Bungle · 06-06-2017, 09:14 PM

I'm more or less the exact same outside the forum and I'm sure anyone will tell ya I'm an annoying guy to know

Mondo Bungle · 06-06-2017, 09:48 PM

y'all mad cuz I'm the future of music