Trollheart Listens to Every Album on Wiki's List for 2017

The Batlord · 03-18-2018, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I can hear her old white males don’t get to make jokes bull**** still echoing in the wind.

Seriously I wish you'd actually joined the forum when you technically joined. You missed so much you could have set off. Sansa would have been your favorite person you didn't like. And on an odd level I suspect she would have liked you in a way she would never admit.

Paedantic Basterd · 03-18-2018, 03:13 PM

See, for me, I don't care if you're *******s because I will just choose not to respond to you.

But what does bother me is losing people I like to talk to because they find it more difficult to ignore it when you guys are being jerks.

Oriphiel · 03-18-2018, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Most people who heavily identify with punk after the fact would’ve hated the original scene.

Okay. Next time I travel back to '77, I'll be sure to not bring her with me.

Trollheart · 03-18-2018, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

People who said that they'd miss TH: Lisnaholic, Micshazam, Batlord, GD, and me

People who got thanked for it: Lisnaholic, Micshazam, Batlord, and GD

Well fuuuuuuuuuu

Watch for the next post. You won't be disappointed.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

He left because of the Office Space trolling tbh.

This is the real truth.

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Originally Posted by grindy

You're a big and important part of MB and also a cool person and I'll miss you.

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Originally Posted by Ol’ Qwerty Bastard

ditto. place won't be the same without ya troll.

Thanks guys.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Seriously let's Skype some time because none of these ****s know Dredd from bread.

Deffo

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I say we bring him back and make him a mod. I'm sure he's still reading and will jump at the chance.

Still reading, yes. Will jump at the chance, no.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It goes without saying that you'll be missed. You're a regular member who contributes a lot to the music side of the forum and that's very valuable. Hopefully you're doing alright everywhere else in life now and from now on if you stay away. If you don't have a blog already, that might be a good way to fulfill your music critic/writing/bants and rants needs.

I'm sorry if you see my intentions as malicious. I might get annoyed by some elements of your posting style, but that doesn't mean that I dislike you. I don't mean any ill will towards you, rubber soul (welcome back I guess? Odd time to come back) or anyone else here. Don't think that I have any kind of personal vendetta against you, it's just a matter of statistics to be honest. I interact with most of the members here similarly (joking around while still trying to have a discussion) and you happen to post a lot so of course we will have a lot of interaction. I also really enjoy discussing ideas which can be very personal, so it's easy to see some of my posts as personal attacks when I see it as a good-natured conversation.

This was completely unexpected. Thanks for that. I'm a little less certain now. actually wrote some very nasty things about you in my individual thanks post. Not sure if I should go ahead with that now.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Whoomp there it is!

I respect your candor. And, surprisingly, your ability to wrap up my life story with uncharacteristic dexterity. I think your distaste for me has brought out some new literary skills.

I honestly really like you. I said before how much I respect how you care for your sister. I’m your most enthusiastic album club member. I don’t rag on people unless I like them. Remember how hard I ragged on Frownland for making that video in his mom’s kitchen. Or how much **** I gave elph for selling timeshares? Dude, I love Frown and elph. I also love Chula- but when he goes low I go lower. Batlord posted his picture and teased him relentlessly.

If you don’t leave, I will make a pledge never to tease you again. It’s too bad, because you swing back super hard and usually move on.

I really like reading your journal reviews and your jokes and your jabs. You’ve thrown out your share of haymakers, don’t even lie.

The thing about this is, if I could believe you were only getting under my skin, fine. But your manner is very acerbic and insulting, and if there's one big thing in my life it's my writing. I've been writing since I was, oh, about seven years old. You wouldn't believe the terrible crap I've written (well, yes you would) but I have also written some decent stuff. I have no problem with you not liking my writing - Frownland doesn't like it either, but he had the decency to compliment me on my grasp of character and plot, while still saying it wasn't to his taste, which is fine. But I don't like to be told I'm an awful writer, because I'm not. So you struck a raw nerve there. I wouldn't ask you to make that pledge, but I would ask you to maybe leave my writing as an off-limits subject? Would that work for you? Of course I've done my share of badmouthing, but I think I can say it's never been without provocation and always with humour (I think). I'm not perfect. Nobody is. But there are lines you don't cross. Even when I slagged off Frown's music, I made it clear I understood that others might like it, but I didn't. I did not say he was an awful musician. There is a difference, and yes, it hurts to hear that.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Unknown Soldier is my biggest request. He revitalized the metal community at least twice, created a journal to document metal through the years that I loved so much that I had an index thread stickied which I maintained until his untimely disappearance (and voted journal and thread of the year at least three times), and was in general a madass mother****er.

I'm still just a bit hurt that he never left any kind of byebye post so I'd know he didn't kill himself or get run over by a train.

Still around on Skype. I can hook you up if you want.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I didn't know that. Might keep up just to say high if he shows up. He was a top 10 all-time member for me. Give me a shout if he does appear.

Say high or get high?

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I've seen many a giant to do about leaving post in my day where a simple week hiatus would have done wonders

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Originally Posted by Akai

A hiatus would be the more logical choice.

No. A hiatus would have been just "oh well see you in a week", and I feel - felt - more angry and upset than that. I wanted to show how badly things had gone, and the pass they had pushed me to. What's a week's hiatus? Would barely have registered here. Not that I did this for attention. I really feel/felt that it was my only option. It may yet be.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

People leave for all sorts of reasons: maybe they’re over sensitive pansies, maybe they think it’s too snowflakey and not abrasive enough, maybe they’re not really that interested in learning about new music, but the number one reason is that posting on internet forums is a waste of time. People know it’s a waste but do it anyway then get disgusted with themselves.

Frankly, this thread is illustrative of one of the most pathetic wastes of time I’ve ever seen online. 2500 or whatever reviews no one gives a **** about by a guy who admits he doesn’t even listen to the ****ing records.

I never said that. Why would I say that? Why would I do that? How could I review an album I didn't listen to? Maybe you're thinking of when I said I only listened to each one once? Not sure otherwise. Lost me there.

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And often it’s not the super sensitive types who have something to offer. Often it’s the most abrasive people who are also the most knowledgeable and articulate.

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How many ****ing times did someone basically say oh Frown shouldn’t disagree with me because he’s a mod? Snowflake bitch **** is all that is.

Never, that I saw. That would be stupid.

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Also, it’s almost always tit for tat. People throw **** out there and then play this poor me I’m getting attacked card. 90% of the people here never got **** on by anyone. And that’s because they don’t start ****.

Yeah well you came after me with no provocation, Hawk. I was just posting my stuff and you started calling it ****, so I tried to turn it into a joke and you just got nasty.

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

Hawk has a point.

And a beak.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Yeah as much as I agree with what Paedantic Bastard said, Sansa was one of the most toxic and abusive members I've ever seen on the forum, which is why she got banned.

Church

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

Been there, done that.

Oh really now, when did he say that?

Like I say, never. Would not make sense.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I ain’t digging for it.

Easy answer there, Hawk. I can guarantee that I listened to every single album that is reviewed in that thread. And as for useless? It was, as it says in the OP, originally an idea for me to get a better handle on the current albums doing the rounds. And it has worked. I've discovered so many new artists through it, many/most of whom I would not even have bothered, um, bothering with otherwise. You don't like it, that's fine, but it's not a waste of time. Not for me. And I'm sure some people enjoyed some of the reviews. Surely? Someone? Little help?

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

Actually, this comment is basically meaningless.

Sig-worthy.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

This post alone would have made her loathe you, and not just because of her vanity. Man I now wish you two could have interacted.

They probably would have formed an alliance against me.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 03-18-2018, 04:17 PM

Is this all sorted now then?

Lisnaholic · 03-18-2018, 04:51 PM

^ Hi Trollheart!

First things first: if you have a change of heart and decide to continue here, you'll make a lot of members happier. BTW, when I tried this morning, your PM box was full. I'd berate you for not keeping shop properly, but this is probably not the right moment....

On more complex issues:-

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Originally Posted by Paedantic Basterd

Rubber Soul isn't wrong.

This place has a particular attitude. It has an aggressive and insensitive culture. I'm not going to argue that those are inherently bad things, but I will definitely tell you it's the reason we lose so many contributors over the years. Rubber Soul, Trollheart, Pet Sounds, Mojo, NSW, Jack Pat, Stu, Bob, Tore, Sequioidedae, Engine, Dankrstra, Cunning Stunt, on and on and on goes the list of people who eventually get alienated by the general mood around here.

^ I completely agree with this, and would only add that there are others who dip in briefly and leave, as well as an unknown quantity of people who take a look, assess the atmosphere and never join at all.

I'm sure modding is a difficult job and nothing is harder than making a judgement call about when good-natured ribbing morphs into bitter attacking. One rule of thumb might be that if you don't like the content of a thread, just leave it alone. It's not like MB is short of threads and topics to post in.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

People leave for all sorts of reasons: maybe they’re over sensitive pansies, maybe they think it’s too snowflakey and not abrasive enough, maybe they’re not really that interested in learning about new music, but the number one reason is that posting on internet forums is a waste of time. People know it’s a waste but do it anyway then get disgusted with themselves.

^ This paragraph has a lot of truth in it, though I can't imagine anyone thinking MB is "too snowflakey".

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Frankly, this thread is illustrative of one of the most pathetic wastes of time I’ve ever seen online. 2500 or whatever reviews no one gives a **** about by a guy who admits he doesn’t even listen to the ****ing records.

^ And this paragraph is an example of the kind of thing that I suggest we avoid. If you're not interested in this thread, why not have the good manners to let it be?
Ultimately, almost every human endevour can be dismissed as a waste of time. There's no need, imo, to pick on this thread as an example of human futility. As old ladies sometimes do, my mum used to feed birds, putting out bird seed for them in the winter. Now of course, my mum and the birds she fed are long dead; it was all "one of the most pathetic wastes of time I've ever seen" but she liked to do it and it did no harm to anybody. Never would I have dreamed of calling her out on it. Maybe it's an overly-emotive parallel, but I hope people see what I'm suggesting. If a thread keeps someone happy, even if it's only the OP, why not let it be?

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Originally Posted by Paedantic Basterd

But what does bother me is losing people I like to talk to because they find it more difficult to ignore it when you guys are being jerks.

^ Yep, me too!

OccultHawk · 03-18-2018, 05:01 PM

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If a thread keeps someone happy, even if it's only the OP, why not let it be

Probably for the same reason we all enjoy videos of very late term abortions.

**Goofle** · 03-18-2018, 06:35 PM

Sad that you're leaving TH. One of my favourite members.

Thanks in advance for your complimentary response.

OccultHawk · 03-18-2018, 06:38 PM

He’s staying ffs

Anteater · 03-18-2018, 07:14 PM

Troll, stay and keep writing and doing what you do best. If those Donald Trump threads couldn't tear this community apart then nothing will.

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OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,033	He’s staying ffs __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

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Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	See, for me, I don't care if you're *******s because I will just choose not to respond to you. But what does bother me is losing people I like to talk to because they find it more difficult to ignore it when you guys are being jerks.

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Is this all sorted now then?