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Old 07-11-2008, 10:53 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Atmosphere should be played at my funeral and probably everyone's.
phuck yes.
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Old 07-12-2008, 02:22 AM   #72 (permalink)
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No thread yet? I don't think they need much of an introduction. I like Closer best, Heart and Soul is my favorite song. Discuss and listen if you haven't.
Well, Joy Division is not now, or will ever be "Punk". They are probably best classified as "Post Punk", and maybe one of the founding fathers of the Goth movement, but not Punk.

Yes, they are a kick ass band, Transmission is porbably my all time favorite song.
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Old 07-12-2008, 02:29 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Yes they were Punk If you hear their early stuff such as the Wasrsaw EP.And It's pretty tacky to associate them with the Goth movement because ever goth band has tried to rip them off and every goth band did it horribly. Plus goth music just sucks.
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sweet nothing openly flaunts the fact that he is merely the empty shell of an even more unadmirable member. his loneliness and need for attention bleeds through every letter he types. edit: i would just like to add that i'm ashamed that he's from texas. surely you didn't grow up in texas, did you sweet nothing?
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Old 07-12-2008, 02:35 AM   #74 (permalink)
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Plus goth music just sucks.
No it doesn't...see Bauhaus.
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Old 07-12-2008, 02:41 AM   #75 (permalink)
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I have the Bela Lugosi's Dead single and Mask. Bela Lugosi's Dead is an amazing track other than that i'm not impressed at all.
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What other stuff have you heard other than Bela Lugosi and Mask?
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Old 07-12-2008, 02:48 AM   #77 (permalink)
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The Sky's Gone Out album, very boring =\
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Old 07-12-2008, 04:04 AM   #78 (permalink)
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Yes they were Punk If you hear their early stuff such as the Wasrsaw EP.And It's pretty tacky to associate them with the Goth movement because ever goth band has tried to rip them off and every goth band did it horribly. Plus goth music just sucks.
No...they were not, I repeat, not punk. They started out very early on playing a very peculiar (and extremely mediocre) form of punk/art punk, yes, but the music they are actually known for is simply not punk and there's no way around it.

Music journalist Jon Savage, one of the screenwriters of the recent 2008 Joy Division documentary, probably put it best when he said:

"Joy Division were not punk but were directly inspired by its energy."

They moved away from their punk rock influences pretty early on and created the dark, sinister sound that is their trademark - in the process, becoming one of the most important initiators of the Post-Punk movement. Their best known song, Love Will Tear Us Apart, is pretty much Synth-Pop.
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Please dont talk to me like I know nothing of the band.


You misunderstood me I said they 'were' as they were once punk as in when they first started out.
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Old 07-12-2008, 06:19 AM   #80 (permalink)
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You misunderstood me I said they 'were' as they were once punk as in when they first started out.
The dude wasn't talking about their early stuff. He was talking about the band generally. So he was quite right, but you corrected him all the same for some reason.

With that said, the "goth" part was pretty off...I wonder where that idea came from...
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