Originally Posted by Alexisonfire Alan is a very nice person.

Originally Posted by Kurt_Cobain But the same way I cant make you believe in Him, also means that you cant break my love.

Originally Posted by bungalowbill357 I know perfectly well what it means to have faith. Faith can mean other things than believing in God and in believing that Jesus Christ is the savior. You can have faith in other things. How strongly do you believe that your belifs are correct? Probably very strongly Well, any Jewish, or Buddhist person believe just as strongly that their beliefs are correct. Who are you(in general, not RAR or Vanilla) to tell them that their belifs are wrong and that yours are right. That is wrong to do. Many christians have said to me "If you have any friends that arent Christian, tell them about Jesus. Because if they dont convert, they are going to go to hell. And you wouldnt want your friends in hell" I was like, are serious, this guy is whack. Who is he to telll others that their belifs are wrong.

CNN.com has more on this;

An Italian court is tackling Jesus -- and whether the Roman Catholic Church may be breaking the law by teaching that he existed 2,000 years ago.

The case pits against each other two men in their 70s, who are from the same central Italian town and even went to the same seminary school in their teenage years.

The defendant, Enrico Righi, went on to become a priest writing for the parish newspaper. The plaintiff, Luigi Cascioli, became a vocal atheist who, after years of legal wrangling, is set to get his day in court later this month.

"I started this lawsuit because I wanted to deal the final blow against the Church, the bearer of obscurantism and regression," Cascioli told Reuters.

Cascioli says Righi, and by extension the whole Church, broke two Italian laws. The first is "Abuso di Credulita Popolare" (Abuse of Popular Belief) meant to protect people against being swindled or conned. The second crime, he says, is "Sostituzione di Persona," or impersonation.

"The Church constructed Christ upon the personality of John of Gamala," Cascioli claimed, referring to the 1st century Jew who fought against the Roman army.

A court in Viterbo will hear from Righi, who has yet to be indicted, at a January 27 preliminary hearing meant to determine whether the case has enough merit to go forward.

"In my book, 'The Fable of Christ,' I present proof Jesus did not exist as a historic figure. He must now refute this by showing proof of Christ's existence," Cascioli said.

Speaking to Reuters, Righi, 76, sounded frustrated by the case and baffled as to why Cascioli -- who, like him, came from the town of Bagnoregio -- singled him out in his crusade against the Church.

"We're both from Bagnoregio, both of us. We were in seminary together. Then he took a different path and we didn't see each other anymore," Righi said.

"Since I'm a priest, and I write in the parish newspaper, he is now suing me because I 'trick' the people."

Righi claims there is plenty of evidence to support the existence of Jesus, including historical texts.

He also claims that justice is on his side. The judge presiding over the hearing has tried, repeatedly, to dismiss the case -- prompting appeals from Cascioli.

"Cascioli says he didn't exist. And I said that he did," he said. "The judge will decide if Christ exists or not."

Even Cascioli admits that the odds are against him, especially in Roman Catholic Italy.

"It would take a miracle to win," he joked.

Originally Posted by Vanilla How could I expect a person who constantly brings down Christianity to understand what it feels like to believe? If you've experienced it you wouldn't be attacking it.

Vita brevis,
Occasio praeceps