Well it really annoys me when people assume I don't eat meat to save animals.

According to Genesis the foxes also got on fine with the chickens, and sheep weren't at risk from lions. In the garden of Eden, all animals were vegan. Check out your new testament. I'm not sure which one it was (maybe Paul, he gets up to a lot) but one of the disciples goes to his friends house, sunbathes on the roof, gets heatstroke and hallucinates that God tells him that it's fine to eat all animals. Then he wrote it down and put it forward as the total troof.

Thats different from saying god created animals for us to eat, I know full well he said it was okay to eat them, but did he create them for food? Nope.

I suppose he expected our stomachs to spontaneously produce the necessary proteins and oils that are primarily provided by meats and not commonly available from vegetable based food stuffs.

Hey hey, shutup >.>

Fal, stop provoking Ethan, or I'll make you walk the mile. :)

Well what else were they put on the earth for, besides food?
The only other uses I can think of are sport or transportation.

...Animals make good friends. Not everything in the world has to be used to fulfill human purposes.

Vegan's are lame.

and bruise_violet needs to eat more food. Preferably meat.

could you name some of those good purposes please?

I'm sorry, but what? That didn't make much sense, 'cause if you mean what that read as. You want me to list humans good purposes?

I can think of several good purposes humans serve. Specifically males. :laughing:

in all honesty, I meant what good purposes do animals serve?

Dogs for one, all the shiz they do (police work) wise, and the blind people dogs.

Why does this matter so much? Even if animals don't serve 'good' purposes does that mean its okay to eat them? Cause if thats the case, what do really old people do for us? Really? Should we kill them and eat them also?

It doesn't matter too much.

But if it weren't for humans dogs (and many other creatures) would have no purpose. Dogs were trained by humans to do police work. They were trained by people to help aid blind people.
The fact is if humans weren't around and all these creatures were left to their own devices, the earth would probably be a lot cleaner.
But they would have no purpose. some creatures woudl still go extinct and some of them would still get eaten.

And I personally believe that in some circumstances useless people should just die. And I think it's wrong to put any animal to rest since they can't give their consent. Humans spend so much time worrying about nuclear warefar adn biochemical warfare when it can all be avoided. Put some time, energy andmoney into communicating with dogs and other animals, then get back to me.
And I was serious about that old people thing. Once you've outlived your usefullness, can no longer live without machines or the aid of others you really should consider having the plug pulled. I also think everyone should have a living will to specify how to get rid of your body.

Purpose is subjective.

my opinion.. is that the ONLY acceptible reasons for hunting are..
Pest Control
Food (to avoid starvation, not out of choice)


kill a person and youre a murderer.. kill any other animal and youre a sportsman. Thats not right.

The murder of certain people could be considered justifiable action no matter what governments or judicial systems may say.
Case in point, Bush should be . . . disposed of and I would consider it justified despite what the American government and judicial courts may think.

I said yes.
it's wrong.

that thing with the seals was horrible.
I watched the video thing
it's disgusting.
plus, they're cute...

that, & I'm vegetariann
because
the idea of chewing on flesh makes me want to vomit.

& i try to be vegetarian
& mom bought a meat pizza
& even though she is a vegetarian
& I had to eat it, so it wouldn't be a waste of the animals life..heh.

please tell me this is limited to food.

uhm..duh?

Just making sure.
cause I can imagine myself going vegetarian but I couldn't see myself living without the feel of my boyfriend's flesh in my mouth. And that's the first thing I thought of when you said you don't like the feel of flesh. This is bound to give me nightmares later.

^ RAINE er,,.....carry on.

with what?

With w/e you were doing.

you might want to elaborate

the whole
I couldn't see myself living without the feel of my boyfriend's flesh in my mouth
part was kindof weird..
I didn't want to ask..

& I still don't want to know.

I'm a biter.

and what exactly is it you don't want to know

...that

edit:
anyways...
yeah, hunting's bad.
the end.

You tell those bastards angie and raine really we all know that cats bite anything.

If I'm a cat then you're a scratching post.

Well, other than supporting and maintaining the complex ecosystem upon which all life, especially human, is dependent. Food chain is more than just a pretty tree diagram ...

what are some other uses animals serve besides food chain

^ Ermm lemme guess, keeping the fragile ecosystem bla bla, as posted by Fal.

Worms churn the soil, keeping it fertile so that trees can grow. Ants cut back on overgrown rainforests to enable a balance of plants to grow and to make sure no singular aspect becomes over populated. Flies help to break down feces into compost.

Spiders control insect populations

Goats eat Kudzu (spelling?)

Elephants knock down dying trees and crush their trunks

This whole debate is upside down.
Humans are the cancer of the earth...it's true.

I think you're retarded. I don't hunt, but it's not fair of you to tell somebody their actions are wrong when they're trying to survive, or put food on the table for their family. If you don't agree, don't partake, but do'nt bitch about how they lead their lives.

^ That wasn't very nice sir.

It may not've been, but it's a rather unbridled version of how I feel about the subject. He asked for opinions, he got them.